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Old 04-28-2006, 05:03 PM
Erik W Erik W is offline
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Default TT got raised on turn when A falls. OESD too

No reads but probably a little loose, just sat down.
I think I can fold the river unimproved.
If he wanted to raise with a hand that contained
any of the flop he would have already.

It seems like a weak ace, maybe suited or a set.
Limp UTG so probably not too good a player.

I have odds to call the turn with the openender and that he might in rare cases check the river.

Is it a call of fold on the river.
I think it is close.

If it is a very agressive player who likes to screw around it is a call to me.
Against a decent TAG I think it is a fold.
Against a player with low aggression it is a fold.
Against an unknown I don't know.

Do you agree on this?




Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T, T.
1 fold</font>, MP calls, 2 folds</font>,Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8, 7, 9 (2 players)</font>
Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) A (2 players)</font>
Hero bets</font>,MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.25 BB) Q (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP bets</font>, Hero ........
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Old 04-28-2006, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: TT got raised on turn when A falls. OESD too

I think that is an easy river fold.
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Old 04-28-2006, 05:59 PM
CaucasianAsian29 CaucasianAsian29 is offline
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Default Re: TT got raised on turn when A falls. OESD too

Yah, I'd agree with you, I think this is kind of boarderline situation and I'm not really sure, I would not say it's an easy fold. sorry this doesn't really help, I wanna hear some more answers.
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Old 04-28-2006, 06:30 PM
BostonMetro BostonMetro is offline
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Default Re: TT got raised on turn when A falls. OESD too

I will check this turn into a player so often. Especially with the draw. I don't think you lose anything by doing it AT all. If he has TP (of nines) and wants to bluff when the ace comes off, that's fine, you get your draw for cheaper. If he has the ace, you don't get raised. Plus, the pot will be smaller on the river if a non-jack paint comes off, making a fold soooo easy.
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Old 04-29-2006, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: TT got raised on turn when A falls. OESD too

sounds good to me, diden't think of that!
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Old 04-29-2006, 09:51 AM
F Paulsson F Paulsson is offline
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Default Re: TT got raised on turn when A falls. OESD too

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I will check this turn into a player so often. Especially with the draw. I don't think you lose anything by doing it AT all. If he has TP (of nines) and wants to bluff when the ace comes off, that's fine, you get your draw for cheaper. If he has the ace, you don't get raised. Plus, the pot will be smaller on the river if a non-jack paint comes off, making a fold soooo easy.

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This is somewhat analogous to a "check with outs, bet without them" situation. If you had had position on him, you should not have bet this turn since you would hate getting checkraised. And a similar argument can be made for just check/calling this turn.
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