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Old 04-24-2006, 12:54 PM
Gazzbut Gazzbut is offline
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Default 2/4 Marginal pair

villian is 19/7/1.46 over 908

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB.
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:57 PM
James. James. is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 Marginal pair

i would raise pf. i would play the flop the same. i would usually fold the turn, but not always given that it could be a semibluff given the draws that now come around. i just don't think a 1.46 messes around TOO much. the river is el standardo.
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Marginal pair

raise pf, flop is fine, fold the turn, although i don't think the crying call, fold the river UI line is awful
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Old 04-24-2006, 03:10 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 Marginal pair

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i don't think the crying call, fold the river UI line is awful

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In my opinion, this would probably be the most awful line. We have only two outs against an A (a K is NOT an out here), and our opponent is probably not checking the river often enough to merit hoping for that in what is a small pot.

If we're calling the turn, we should do so with the intent of seeing a showdown.
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:45 PM
SlamminP SlamminP is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 Marginal pair

I would rarely even consider folding this turn. Villain's PFR is 7 and a limp tells me he doesn't have an ace or he would have raised preflop(AT, AJ possibilities). Even without analysis of villain's stats, I would call this. 2/4 is full of turn donk betters like this who try to pick up the pot when a scare card falls. My guess is villain is holding a low pocket pair.
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Marginal pair

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Villain's PFR is 7 and a limp tells me he doesn't have an ace or he would have raised preflop(AT, AJ possibilities).

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I actually think this means aces are in his limping range, with the big aces in his raising range.

Anyway, I usually raise this preflop, but I don't like this opponent too much, so a fold might be in order. I don't think a call is terrible, but I would rather play this hand and do so with a raise.
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