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Old 04-23-2006, 07:56 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default 60 - AJs in SB vs 2+2er

OK, here is a hand that I screwed up royally. The BB is a regular here who is is a regular at the 60s and 114s.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1410)
UTG+1 (t1620)
MP1 (t1975)
MP2 (t3770)
CO (t110)
Button (t1455)
Hero (t1730)
BB (t1430)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t25, BB checks

Flop: (t100) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t700) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350

River: (t1400) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t730 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
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Old 04-23-2006, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: 60 - AJs in SB vs 2+2er

Your mistake is calling his flop raise.

I'd raise preflop, as well (of course, if you're going to limp you can't get into trouble with ace high).

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Old 04-23-2006, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: 60 - AJs in SB vs 2+2er

Check fold the flop.

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Old 04-23-2006, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: 60 - AJs in SB vs 2+2er

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OK, here is a hand that I screwed up royally. The BB is a regular here who is is a regular at the 60s and 114s.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1410)
UTG+1 (t1620)
MP1 (t1975)
MP2 (t3770)
CO (t110)
Button (t1455)
Hero (t1730)
BB (t1430)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t25, BB checks

Flop: (t100) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t700) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350

River: (t1400) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t730 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

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I'd raise preflop. I'd also fold the turn if I didn't intend to call the river shove. You either think your hand is good or you're drawing dead to a red J.
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Old 04-23-2006, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: 60 - AJs in SB vs 2+2er

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OK, here is a hand that I screwed up royally. The BB is a regular here who is is a regular at the 60s and 114s.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1410)
UTG+1 (t1620)
MP1 (t1975)
MP2 (t3770)
CO (t110)
Button (t1455)
Hero (t1730)
BB (t1430)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t25, BB checks

Flop: (t100) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t700) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350

River: (t1400) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t730 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

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I'd raise preflop. I'd also fold the turn if I didn't intend to call the river shove. You either think your hand is good or you're drawing dead to a red J.

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This was so awful, that I just had to post to discourage any future Fancy Bad Play Syndrome like this.

On the turn, I figured I could've moved ahead, but saw no reason to raise when he would just check down the river with any hand that I was ahead of (like QT). If he bet the river, I knew I was dead. So I called, then folded.
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Old 04-23-2006, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: 60 - AJs in SB vs 2+2er

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OK, here is a hand that I screwed up royally. The BB is a regular here who is is a regular at the 60s and 114s.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1410)
UTG+1 (t1620)
MP1 (t1975)
MP2 (t3770)
CO (t110)
Button (t1455)
Hero (t1730)
BB (t1430)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t25, BB checks

Flop: (t100) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t700) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350

River: (t1400) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t730 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

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dayum. raise pf, otherwise c/f the flop. this is a ballsy post, nh pvs.
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: 60 - AJs in SB vs 2+2er

Raise PF. Fold the flop since you called get it allin on the turn or river.
BTW If you think you're good on the flop raise don't call.
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