KK 6 max

bluf8u · #1 04-23-2006, 06:09 PM

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MP ($40.80)
Hero ($64.85)
SB ($61.74)
BB ($34.50)
UTG ($31.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB (poster) calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $5, SB raises to $10, BB folds, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($26) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $49.74 (All-In)....ur play here

villians 4th hand at table.

Fallen Hero · #2 04-23-2006, 06:10 PM

I fold

Mr_Gordon · #3 04-23-2006, 06:17 PM

I would 3b the flop to get some more info, he could have A8, 99-jj or diamonds.

kslghost · #4 04-23-2006, 08:27 PM

I'd fold, most of the time. If I had a read on SB, I might find some ways to call this if I think he is rather crazy.

Lucky · #5 04-23-2006, 08:44 PM

fold. you call the flop mini c/r to see if hes on draw/air whatever. On turn, it looks like he isnt. If he's regularly doing this while behind here, you have a new buddy.

DWarrior · #6 04-23-2006, 08:49 PM

The check-minraise is usually villain not knowing how to get more money in, so he lets you bet and then sucks you in with a minraise, where you're given good odds to keep playing.

On a board like this it's almost always a set, at worst this is QQ+ I think.

Unless you know this guy to be super-tricky where he can rep a donk move like this with any two, fold. If you had JJ/QQ, I'd say even fold on the flop, but KK is a bit too good of a hand to lay down to that.

If the guy was on tilt and you knew he was an ATM, then I'll make a crying call.

Since this is 5-handed, he may be overvaluing an overpair here, but it's unlikely.

Also I don't see what a 3-bet does. If he 4-bets it's now an easy fold, but villain may not always 4-bet with a set. He might call and then bet the turn, you still don't know where he's at. If he overvalues an overpair, he may 4-bet it, so you still can't be certain.

Call the flop and look for a cheap showdown. Call bet under $20 on the turn and fold to the river bet. If he checks turn, call a bet under $20 if board blanks.

bluf8u · #7 04-23-2006, 09:52 PM

well in this spot I folded and villian showed his QQ. Looking back I think I like the way D warrior says to play here.

younghov17 · #8 04-23-2006, 09:58 PM

in these situaions i find the times im behind with aa kk are few and far between so i lean towards calling except v a few select players. the times i call and lose are far far far outnumbered by the times i call and win. i think 2+2 ssnl undervalues aa/kk a lot and u guys give villians way too much credit.

Dan Bitel · #9 04-23-2006, 10:00 PM

I think this is a very very easy call.

If he really does have a set, he's an absolute moran. I call all day, and I'm very rarely behind

DWarrior · #10 04-23-2006, 10:26 PM

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I think this is a very very easy call.

If he really does have a set, he's an absolute moran. I call all day, and I'm very rarely behind

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Why? What range would you put the villain on?

Why would you think villain would go all in there with TT-QQ?

Why did villain show his hand at the end?