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Old 01-10-2006, 11:53 PM
deagle185 deagle185 is offline
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Default Two overplayed hands

These are obviously overplayed second-best hands I had today. When do I put the brakes on and when do I drop (or call down)?

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 :#A500AF(Villain)/ 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Villain calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $2 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kc As (one pair, aces).
Villain has Qh Qc (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Villain wins 20.75 BB. </font>

I only beat AJ and KK, and neither hand is likely. Should I call the turn raise and check/call river? Or fold to turn raise?



PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Villain calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Villain calls, MP2 folds.

River: (11.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 7h 7d (three of a kind, sevens).
Villain has Qc 6c (flush, queen high).
Outcome: Villain wins 11.50 BB. </font>

This kind of situation has long been a major chip bleeder in my game. How would you play this postflop? I was going to fold to a turn raise or river bet unimproved.
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