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Old 04-17-2006, 02:40 PM
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Default 1/2 Blind Steal

I seem to have a lot of difficulty with these sorts of situations. Should I be stealing with A5o from the button? What about when there's an extra poster blind?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

I can usually find a fold on the turn.
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

My read on the blinds determines if I'm raising A5o here. MP3 posting doesn't really influence that (assuming MP3 is total unknown).

Flop bet is standard, as is turn. When I get popped on the turn I'm getting away from this as it reaks of straight or 2 pair. You're getting 7:1 on a call, but I have reason to suspect your outs need to be heavily discounted. 5 outs to 2-pair +, which I think I'm knocking down to 3 = not enough to call.
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

I wouldn't try to steal with Ax and a limper. With no limpers, I definitely would. I think the turn checkraise means you're toast, fold the turn.
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

MP2 posted.
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

There were no limpers. MP2 posted a blind and checked.
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

Fold PF.

Even if SB + BB fold, poster needs to call 1 for 4.5, and thus, could see a flop with only 1 hole card. Plus, the hand isn't easy to play post flop.
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

I feel strongly that turn is a fold after c/r. What if BB instead leads the turn? I'm still folding. Weak?
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

In a pure steal situation, when you are up against the blind or blinds, I'm going to see a show down with top pair regardless of kicker. If I'm the blinds I'm going to c/r the turn every single time I don't 3-bet pre flop and lead the flop. Without reads it's difficult to know if this guy is just doing standard blind defense or has a hand. You can 3-bet the turn to see if he is serious or just call down. I think folding is weak sauce.
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Blind Steal

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Fold PF.

Even if SB + BB fold, poster needs to call 1 for 4.5, and thus, could see a flop with only 1 hole card. Plus, the hand isn't easy to play post flop.

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