definition of "trips"

[RedGladiator]

hi, i know what a set is and up till a few weeks ago thought that trips were 3 of a kind regardless of how you made it. however in the WPT magazine (uk version) it says :"when you have one card and hit a pair on the board, you're said to have made trips".

is this correct? i have looked at several other sources and they all define trips as 3 of a kind without anyother infomation.

thanks.

[IDN101]

Both are 3 of a kind:

A Set: You hold 2 out of 3
Trips: You hold 1 out of 3

Cheers,
Ian

[trying2learn]

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Both are 3 of a kind:

A Set: You hold 2 out of 3
Trips: You hold 1 out of 3

Cheers,
Ian

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while this is correct, it's been mixed up so much lately that many players consider trips to be either of the two possibilities.

[UATrewqaz]

There is alot of misuse of these terms, even by big name pros and even in poker literature.

Officially both a set and trips are three of a kind, however a set is when you have a pocket pair in your hand and a third on the board

77 with a flop of K74, you have a set of 7's

Trips is when you have three of a kind, however two of them are on the board and only 1 in your hand

AQ with a flop of QQ5, you have trip Q's.

Sets are much better than trips for three reasons.

1. A set is much more disguised.
2. A set is more likely to turn into a full house.
3. Nobody else can have a set of your rank, however someone could also have trips of your rank (with a higher kicker).

[GMan42]

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2. A set is more likely to turn into a full house.


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You sure about this?

My hand: 88 Board: J843
=10 outs to boat/quads on river (3 J's, 3 4's, 3 3's, 1 8)

My hand: A7 Board: Q772
=10 outs to boat/quads on river (3 A's, 3 Q's, 3 2's, 1 7).

Now as to the relative strength of the boat I make, that's a different story. If a Q comes in the 2nd case above, for example, I'm not especially happy.

[SheridanCat]

If you look at the old literature (such as Super/System) you'll find that the distinction about how many are in your hand isn't really mentioned. Brunson refers to trips, a set and "a set of trips" on more than one occasion and doesn't care about what you hold.

More recently we've gotten more particular about the designaton because there is a difference in the strength of the holding. However, you'll still hear very knowledgable people use the terms interchangably.

While it's handy to have a shorthand when talking to someone about a hand, it really doesn't matter what you want to call it as long as you know the difference.

I refer to it the way I think is correct, but I no longer correct anyone or really care what someone else says.

Regards,

T