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Old 01-10-2006, 11:58 AM
subzero subzero is offline
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Default NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

<font color="purple">No reads on villain (I'm 3-tabling). Villain is 78/13/1.5, 100 hands. My image is TAG. How's my line? Please comment on all streets. Thanks.</font>

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed)

MP3 (Villain) ($74.75)
Hero ($82.50)
Button ($73.50)
SB ($17)
BB ($38.40)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($38.50)
MP1 ($82.95)
MP2 ($32.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, MP3 (Villain) calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 (Villain) calls $5.

Flop: ($15.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $12</font>, Hero?
<font color="purple">Decision time. Folding seemed weak. I don't like playing in fear of sets, but I know you shouldn't overplay TPTK. Raising would have committed us both. My range for villain at this point was 22, TT, AT, Ax, JJ, QQ, or flush draw. I decided that villain didn't have TT (he would've raised preflop). Seemed +EV at the time, so I raised.</font>
Hero raises to $36, Villain calls $24.

Turn: ($87.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40.5 (All-In)</font>, Villain calls $32.75 (All-In).

River: ($160.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $160.75
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Old 01-10-2006, 12:12 PM
epdaws epdaws is offline
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Default Re: NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

I like it. Most important is your sound thought process; you were aware of the dangers of overplaying TPTK, but you considered the evidence and committed to your hand. Against this opponent, who has 3/4 stack, I'm willing to go to the felt with this hand. If he has a set, so be it, but you've got to charge him to draw if he's drawing.

My only concern is your flop raise. If Villain is drawing for a flush, you need to smash his odds like your grandmother's vase. In this case, you made it clear that when you raised, you were committed, so that meant Villain need to call $24 to win $96, giving him the odds he needs to see both cards. Bomb that flop a little harder, making it -EV for a flush draw.
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Old 01-10-2006, 12:43 PM
Johan L Johan L is offline
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Default Re: NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

[ QUOTE ]
I like it. Most important is your sound thought process; you were aware of the dangers of overplaying TPTK, but you considered the evidence and committed to your hand. Against this opponent, who has 3/4 stack, I'm willing to go to the felt with this hand. If he has a set, so be it, but you've got to charge him to draw if he's drawing.

My only concern is your flop raise. If Villain is drawing for a flush, you need to smash his odds like your grandmother's vase. In this case, you made it clear that when you raised, you were committed, so that meant Villain need to call $24 to win $96, giving him the odds he needs to see both cards. Bomb that flop a little harder, making it -EV for a flush draw.

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I'm not sure I like it but I´m weak. I don't like to play for my whole stack with one pair hands. I would reraise on the flop and fold to 3 bet. I don't put him on a draw with A=1.5 he wouldn't bet pot i think. Twopair A 10 seems likely along with sets. What would I do on turn if called on flop?
If turn checked to me, check behind?
If turn villain bet ½pot, fold?
If turn villain bet ot, fold
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Old 01-10-2006, 12:58 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

need to add A2 to the range I think
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Old 01-10-2006, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

vs 78vp$ip this is good
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

Looks good, I'm pretty confident that he has a flush draw.
In my experience with those kinda players, they will often bet out like that with flushdraws or other draws but almost always check raise with good hands.
There's no other way to play this against a player like him IMO. Well, you might wanna raise more on the flop but it looks fine.
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

With the stacks semi-deep this is a nice play by the villain if he has a set. He will get hero to come over the top if he feels he has an ace, like he does. That being said I think we can't be weak and fold this. AJ and AQ are shown down a lot here. I don't put him that strongly on a flush draw because most likely with the ace on board he is asking to get raised and that would make him put more money in the pot to hit his draw.
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:24 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

FGators, how are stacks semi-deep? this is $100NL not $50..they are semi short if anything
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:30 PM
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Default Results.

Thanks for all the responses. I'm glad I posted this hand. I'm more careful with TPTK at NL100 (learned the hard way). At NL50, it's less of a concern because you see weaker aces more often. I guess villain's VP$IP numbers were right on. MHIG.

Results:
Villain has 4h Ad (one pair, aces).
Hero has Ah Ks (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $160.75.
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: NL100 uninteresting AKo How\'s my line?

you see the flush draw often enough here that I think this play is good. Also, if he does have something like A2 you have a decent amount of redraw outs.
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