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Old 04-12-2006, 11:47 PM
Maple Leafs Maple Leafs is offline
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Default $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

I have only ten hands on villian -- 20/0/0, for whatever that's worth.

One of the weak parts of my game is putting my opponent on a hand. In this case I did call so I know what he had, but would be curious as to what you put him on, as well as comments on all streets.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) converter

Button ($10.35)
SB ($3.30)
BB ($10)
UTG ($8.90)
MP1 ($3.95)
Hero ($17.30)
CO ($6.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.65) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $1.10.

Turn: ($5.65) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7.95</font>, Hero calls $6.45.

River: ($21.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $21.55
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:53 PM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

i dont think you are winning after he raises the flop and turn, i expect to see JT or a set here more often than not, the only hand i can see you beating is QQ.

The hand plays differently if you bet more onthe flop, i would go for at least 1.4.
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Old 04-13-2006, 12:47 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

C/R the turn all in.
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Old 04-13-2006, 12:49 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

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C/R the turn all in.

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Old 04-13-2006, 07:40 AM
Mal_Pais Mal_Pais is offline
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

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The hand plays differently if you bet more onthe flop, i would go for at least 1.4.

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Looks like a set. I'd fold the turn.
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Old 04-13-2006, 08:19 AM
roxtar roxtar is offline
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

Bet more on the flop, $1.25 - $1.50, same thing on the turn. As for putting him on a hand, the weakish flop bet kinda makes that hard to do. At this level I'm going to guess either AJ, 88,22, JT or QQ with KK being pretty unlikely as he would've reraised PF with it. There isn't much that you're beating here. I'd fold.
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Old 04-13-2006, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

Bet more preflop. Fold on flop or turn without read. Looks like JT, J8, J2, 82off, AJ,KJ set or QQ-AA too me.

An idiot could have 33, 64, K3 or T5off here too, but we dont know that without a read.
What did he have?
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Old 04-13-2006, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

I can understand the suggestions of raising more post-flop (I thought I was ahead and wanted to make him overpay to chase a draw, then punish him on the turn. The all-in caught me by surprise, needless to say.

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Bet more preflop.

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Not sure I follow this... I raised a standard 3xBB+1 for the limper. If I'm raising more than that with AA, aren't I giving away information?
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Old 04-13-2006, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

Epilogue: I called, hoping/expecting to see AJ or KJ. I was prepared to lose money if I saw two pair (which would give me several outs) or a set.

Villian turned over 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] -- middle pair with a flush draw and gutshot straight draw.

Never would have put him on a hand like that, was wondering if anyone else would.
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Old 04-13-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: $10 NL - Call this all-in with AA unimproved?

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I can understand the suggestions of raising more post-flop (I thought I was ahead and wanted to make him overpay to chase a draw, then punish him on the turn. The all-in caught me by surprise, needless to say.

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Bet more preflop.

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Not sure I follow this... I raised a standard 3xBB+1 for the limper. If I'm raising more than that with AA, aren't I giving away information?

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Of course, but these sick guys will probably call anyway.
Its ok to play like this, there is a big danger in commiting your whole stack with just one pair when almost any hand could have called that preflop raise
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