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Old 04-12-2006, 04:32 AM
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Default NL10: AK OOP difficult flop

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $6.74
UTG+1: $15.83
MP1: $11.16
MP2: $7.75
MP3: $9.98
CO: $8.41
Button: $4.52
SB: $3.62
Hero: $9.30

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.3</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button folds.

I put in a nice bet to make this pot shorthanded. Unfortunately I get 4 callers.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.75, 5 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO folds.

OK, I know the 2$ bet is weak, weak, weak, given the size of the pot. But I thought about this bet and i think it was good for a couple of reasons:

1. If no one has a queen, I am value betting, and someone might call this small bet with a weaker ace or a draw.
2. If someone has a queen, I can still get off this hand cheaply. I wouldn't be surprised if someone had a queen, because I got 4 callers to my preflop raise.

Am I way off track?

Should I have bet the pot, 1/2 pot, or checked?

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($12.75, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $2</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

UTG+1 is a loose player with a VPIP of over 50. I decide to go to check-call mode. No reads on MP1

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($18.75, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks.

Results:
Final pot: $18.75
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:45 AM
PoBoy321 PoBoy321 is offline
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Default Re: NL10: AK OOP difficult flop

WTF did you raise to $1.30 pre-flop?
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: NL10: AK OOP difficult flop

You are pricing in a flush draw with that kind of flop bet. I would still bet ~2/3 pot OOP with TPTK here. I don't have a problem with keeping the pot small, but just because a queen beats you, it doesn't mean that someone neccessarily has that queen.

Again, on the turn you're allowing a flush draw a freecard simply by virtue of the board pairing. Finally, I would value bet the river as played. I think the way you play this is to scared of the queen when you have no real reason to think anybody has that.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: NL10: AK OOP difficult flop

What's wrong with that? I would do 4x + 1x per limper. There're seven limpers here, so I'd be looking at 11x in any case. He wants to win the pot right there or at least thin the field significantly.

What would you be raising?
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: NL10: AK OOP difficult flop

Yes. my standard raise is 0.4-0.5 $, and with so many limpers I decided to put a large bet in there..Perhaps a bit too much, but still got plenty of callers...

I didn't value bet the river because UTG+1 bet the turn after calling my flop bet. But now I think even a 1/2 pot bet would've been better on the flop because I let the club draw draw with proper odds, as you said.
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Old 04-12-2006, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: NL10: AK OOP difficult flop

And the showdown...

MP1 shows A7, a weaker ace. As expected.
UTG+1 shows... 33.

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Old 04-12-2006, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: NL10: AK OOP difficult flop

Bet pot on the flop, then C/c the turn would be good if you get one or more callers. preflop seems ok, its only slightly more than the standard raise and with that many limpers a bit more could be a good idea to thin them out.
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