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Old 04-11-2006, 09:31 PM
Setof8s Setof8s is offline
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Default 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

Second orbit no solid reads:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, Hero ...?
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

I am guessing that the button caught a queen and UTG+2 decided that it was a good time to start raising with his small set. Your sandwiched because you don't know how the button will react to the 3-bet.

I think I bite the bullets and fold. Maybe I am too tight?
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:22 PM
Jiggymike Jiggymike is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

I don't think I would fold here without a read. I do agree with Drunken's read of the hand, but without a read, UTG could be playing a pretty wide range. Not everyone respects your raises and will call the cap with anh hand they would call BB with. They may have both caught Qs on the turn or UTG might have a set. If capped, I would fold to 2 bets on river.
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

origami time baby. It's over.

JT
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:59 PM
Setof8s Setof8s is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

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origami time baby. It's over.

JT

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You would fold JT?
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

Fold it and pretend you never had aces.

UTG+2 check/calls then check/3-bets? You're drawing to 2 outs.
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:08 PM
Ubertom Ubertom is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

Folding this with no reads here is tough. I see people play pocket nines and tens this way all the time, even with the overcard on the turn. Absent reads, I'll probably reluctantly call down unless it gets capped and I'm led into on the river.

As a side note, though, pay attention to what gets showndown here, and watch how these players interact in pots with each other. Check/3-bets are rare and there's a small possibility you could be dealing with some collusive behavior. Or you could just be up against a maniac, or someone who slowplayed a set. It's just a good idea to keep your eyes open at the table.
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

Generally, a turn check/3-bet means they crush top pair.

It's possible you may be up against 2-pair and/or KK and/or AQ, which would give you odds to call peal and hope the board pairs, but I think UTG+2 has a set or 2-pair here a good percent of the time and you have dubious outs to continue.

Unless you have a read both guys are LAG, fold this puppy and move on. Don't be the meat in their raise sandwich.
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:44 PM
Setof8s Setof8s is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

Well I did fold, sharing the opinion that the 3 bet meant he could beat top pair, but the raiser had KQ and the 3 better had QT. /boggle

Made me think that I'll never fold AA in a capped pot at 2/4, but seems like I probably made the correct play longterm.
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Old 04-12-2006, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 - AA faces turn 3 bet

fold.
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