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Old 04-10-2006, 09:23 PM
Transference Transference is offline
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Default 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

I don't know this villian terribly well but I enjoy his company on my right. Approx 45/25/2 and capable of some trickery. Hes happily paid of a couple of my value bets so far and called turn raises with mid pairs. He limped then 3 bet my raise into a big field and took it down w/o showing.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero thinks hard about raising then calls.

A flop check even on this board makes me shudder a bit, I expect him not to find a fold with KK or QQ so im sorely tempted to bet. I havent seen him do much capping and I havent been terribly aggressive preflop on this table. I dont see folding to a 3 bet on any street as an option.
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:32 PM
cconnard cconnard is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

i think that this guy is aggressive enough preflop that you are missing value by not betting the flop.
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:37 PM
shaodeee shaodeee is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

I'd bet flop..but if you pull this play I think you'd have to raise the turn or river.
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:56 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

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A flop check even on this board makes me shudder a bit

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Yeah, I think it should.

I think you played it all right. Your hand is too good not to show down even after the suspicious flop check, so I wouldn't want to walk into a checkraise on the flop.
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Old 04-10-2006, 10:34 PM
Redd Redd is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

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A flop check even on this board makes me shudder a bit

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Yeah, I think it should.


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Yeah, me too. In situations like this I check the flop behind very often; I usually consider betting flop and checking turn, but I usually can't guess if the guy's going to c/r the flop or turn if I'm beat. So I usually take the freebie even though it's a cheap one.
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Old 04-10-2006, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

Not betting the flop is terrible here. You can reevaluate if you get c/r'd. But you have to take the lead on this flop. The villain is quite aggressive and probably won't go away if he has a big pp that you've just drawn out on.
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Old 04-10-2006, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

just bet the flop d00d. if not you need to raise either the turn or river
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

Wow, I'm a huge skirt and even I think this flop is a must bet. Wait for him to c/r you with a worse hand, go to war with a draw, whatever. Given your line, I wait to the river to raise, and I raise this river. A flop check/turn raise line is the most likely to fold him out, I think.
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:37 AM
MacGuyV MacGuyV is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

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Wow, I'm a huge skirt and even I think this flop is a must bet. Wait for him to c/r you with a worse hand, go to war with a draw, whatever. Given your line, I wait to the river to raise, and I raise this river. A flop check/turn raise line is the most likely to fold him out, I think.

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Yeah I agree. If he were more passive I'd hate getting checkraised because I wouldn't be able to lay it down knowing I was beat....
but this guy...whatever. Go ahead and checkraise me. I don't feel the least bit bad about calling him down.
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Old 04-11-2006, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 AQ: Weakness vs. induction

As we've established you need to bet this flop, but what would you guys do if he had, SB called, and then check-raised the turn. Would you lay it down?
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