I hate poker.

[CTKid]

Texas Hold'em $1-$2 NL (real money), hand #349,340,959
Table Inhoo´s HE, 10 Apr 2006 6:13 PM ET

Seat 1: Hero [ 6C,6S ] ($150.70 in chips)
Seat 2: EmilDamon ($94.20 in chips)
Seat 5: fisher671 ($116.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Cpt_Doogy ($103.00 in chips)
Seat 8: simpura ($139.60 in chips)
Seat 9: River.Fishin ($16.60 in chips)
Seat 10: blixt_gordon ($99.10 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
fisher671 posts blind ($0.50), Cpt_Doogy posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
simpura calls $1, River.Fishin folds, blixt_gordon calls $1, Hero calls $1, EmilDamon folds, fisher671 calls $0.50, Cpt_Doogy checks.

FLOP [board cards 6H,7S,4H ]
fisher671 bets $2, Cpt_Doogy folds, simpura calls $2, blixt_gordon bets $6, Hero bets $15, fisher671 folds, simpura folds, blixt_gordon bets $30, Hero calls $21.

TURN [board cards 6H,7S,4H,AS ]
blixt_gordon bets $62.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $62.10.

RIVER [board cards 6H,7S,4H,AS,9C ]

SHOWDOWN
blixt_gordon shows [ 8D,5D ]
Hero shows [ 6C,6S ]
blixt_gordon wins $203.20.

[matv]

convert it

push the flop ur calling all in on a turn that doesnt help you anyway

[CTKid]

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push the flop

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wrong.

[matrix]

re-raise flop all-in while you still have outs twice

try posting hands like this here.

[Pokey]

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push the flop

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wrong.

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Uhm...actually, that's good advice. There's already $80 in the middle, and a push is for $62 more. If villain folds with just about any drawing hand, he's making an expensive mistake. Your money is going into the middle either way, so you might as well give your opponent a chance to screw things up. Even if you're beaten here, you have a 1/3 chance of winning by the river, and the pot is offering you sufficient odds on the call. Bad luck, reload, and take it back from him later.

[arielnyc]

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push the flop

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wrong.

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Wow...I got into a big debate with a friend, he has Ax suited and flops two of his suit, and my pocket pair makes trips. If I have none of his suit he still has 9 outs to a flush, but I have 7 outs on the turn for a boat or quads, and 10 on the river if I miss the turn. He likes his and I like mine. I push that flop for reasons already posted and even if behind you have a fair number of outs to catchup.

BTW, if you flop a set, how do you NOT bet? Most people c-bet an uncoordinated flop (even when they miss), here you have a set against a possible drawing hand. He could have an open ender, if you don't bet hard then, you are pot comitted with a smaller bet, aren't you? I just don't understand not getting aggressive here. If you are passive here, what if he takes the lead? Won't it make reading his hand evne harder? You don't know where you stand, but can only guess....and here you flopped a set.


Probably people will explain why I'm not understanding this even yet, and that will be good, so I can learn better, myself.

[mother_brain]

Learn to post or don't. Post your screenname if youre going to post everybody elses.

Hope your luck continues.

[orange]

Just push the flop, this post has little strategic content and should be posted in BBV. No need to get bent outtve shape over losing with a flopped set.

[CTKid]

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Just push the flop, this post has little strategic content and should be posted in BBV. No need to get bent outtve shape over losing with a flopped set.

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I strongly disagree. Pushing this flop is the wrong move, although it goes against the accepted knowledge around here, and I'd like to have a discussion about it.

Best,
CT

[CTKid]

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Learn to post or don't. Post your screenname if youre going to post everybody elses.

Hope your luck continues.

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Sorry, I didn't know that was the rule. And this is from pokerroom, is there a converter that works with PR ?

Best,
CT