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Old 04-10-2006, 01:44 AM
Bungler Bungler is offline
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Default Speed $11 Call this push?

Hi first hand post. Villan in this hand had been rock tight the whole game but just knocked out the 5th place finisher. I think he could have any two, but probably at least an overcard. My question is whether it is worth it to gamble with SB having to push in the next couple of hands? Thanks.

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PartyPoker Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t5394)
Button (t7344)
SB (t2368)
Hero (t4894)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">CO raises to t5394</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero ?
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Old 04-10-2006, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Speed $11 Call this push?

Hero folds. Get SNGPT.

CO has to push a lot of hands here for this call to be +EV and with BTN as the big stack ahead of him, I just don't see him pushing that many (especially at the 11s).
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Old 04-10-2006, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Speed $11 Call this push?

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Villan in this hand had been rock tight the whole game ... I think he could have any two, but probably at least an overcard.

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How do you get this conflicting read? Also, I'd fold.
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Old 04-10-2006, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Speed $11 Call this push?

Caretaker

Villan had been tight the whole game up to this point. The hand before this one he doubled up and this is the first hand of the bubble. So my thought is he's probably solid, and probably understands bubble play ok, therefore pushing any A or K wouldn't neccesarily be out of the ordinary.
As posted I can see how my read wasn't that clear.

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Old 04-10-2006, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Speed $11 Call this push?

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Caretaker

Villan had been tight the whole game up to this point. The hand before this one he doubled up and this is the first hand of the bubble. So my thought is he's probably solid, and probably understands bubble play ok, therefore pushing any A or K wouldn't neccesarily be out of the ordinary.
As posted I can see how my read wasn't that clear.

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Look at the stack configuration. Your assumptions don't make a lot of sense. If he's been rockish, he's not going to suddenly start pushing any A or K from the CO with the big stack right in front of him and a shorty.
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Old 04-10-2006, 02:32 AM
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Alias

You make good points. I guess thats why I posted this hand in the first place was because my reads were off and I got confused. The rock suddenly getting aggressive isn't time to call off all my chips with JJ.

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Old 04-10-2006, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: Speed $11 Call this push?

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Hero folds. Get SNGPT.

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Can someone tell me how to get this hand into SNGPT?

I can rarely ever type a hand into SNGPT. There's always something that won't work. Usually the only way I can get one in is to read a tourney that I've played.

In this particular case, I can put hero in 3 of the 4 available positions, but not BB, where he actually is, so it's impossible for me to use SNGPT for this hand.
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Old 04-10-2006, 02:45 AM
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Hero folds. Get SNGPT.

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Can someone tell me how to get this hand into SNGPT?

I can rarely ever type a hand into SNGPT. There's always something that won't work. Usually the only way I can get one in is to read a tourney that I've played.

In this particular case, I can put hero in 3 of the 4 available positions, but not BB, where he actually is, so it's impossible for me to use SNGPT for this hand.

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Instead of raise, put call.
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Old 04-10-2006, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: Speed $11 Call this push?

FWIW, i find a fold here. However, what is your calling range here? QQ+? KK+? I can't configure these type of situations into SNGPT, and would appreciate any help on this.
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Old 04-10-2006, 03:10 AM
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Default Re: Speed $11 Call this push?

It's hard for me to find a fold here... maybe that's a leak for me.
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