$60 Stars Turbo: Standard AK? Bet this river?

spentrent · #1 04-08-2006, 05:05 PM

Hey guys, been a while since I posted a hand -- or played SNGs regularly. Is this a weak river play or standard?

In the past I would have shoved this river expecting a call from a moron with something like 99... but that was playing the Party 11 - 33s. I want to give these guys some credit. Seems impossible to make a value bet in this spot.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

MP1 (t3705)
MP2 (t1245)
CO (t1425)
Button (t1540)
SB (t1505)
BB (t1450)
UTG (t1160)
Hero (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, Hero raises to t120, 6 folds, UTG calls t90.

Flop: (t285) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t150, UTG calls t150.

Turn: (t585) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t300, UTG calls t300.

River: (t1185) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t1185

samsonh · #2 04-08-2006, 05:14 PM

I think you missed some value here. Keep betting at it like you have. Almost everytime you will see a really weak ace here. Hes looking for a cheap showdown, make him pay a little for it. Bet 350 on river.

bigballz · #3 04-08-2006, 05:14 PM

Why is this impossible to make a river bet? You beat every ace expect A3 and A6, both which would probobly lead the river and wouldn't call preflop. You need to bet the river, your ahead of a lot here. The $60's are not donk free at all, trust me.

ryanghall · #4 04-08-2006, 05:25 PM

I'd value bet this very safe river.

Ryan

spentrent · #5 04-08-2006, 05:27 PM

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Why is this impossible to make a river bet? You beat every ace expect A3 and A6, both which would probobly lead the river and wouldn't call preflop. You need to bet the river, your ahead of a lot here. The $60's are not donk free at all, trust me.

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Fold to a river checkraise? The guy had ~800 left on the river. With the pot so big, I would feel like I have to make a pot odds call. Thoughts?

bigballz · #6 04-08-2006, 05:31 PM

Please elaborate on what he could have that beats you, besides 66 and AA, both which you might as well discount. Then that should answer your question for you.

I'm not even going to think of 45, a 3, or 22. I guess 22 is more likely than the other 2, but pretty much anything that beats you is pretty hard to put him on here, and AQ- and a mid-high pp are way more likely

caretaker1 · #7 04-08-2006, 05:33 PM

Bet every time on that board.

spentrent · #8 04-08-2006, 05:43 PM

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Please elaborate on what he could have that beats you, besides 66 and AA, both which you might as well discount. Then that should answer your question for you.

I'm not even going to think of 45, a 3, or 22. I guess 22 is more likely than the other 2, but pretty much anything that beats you is pretty hard to put him on here, and AQ- and a mid-high pp are way more likely

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I suppose my point is that I can't see a worse hand than mine check-raising that river, but I would be hard-pressed to fold getting ~5 to 1.

I also thought, perhaps foolishly, that no sane person would call another bet on the river with a hand worse than TPTK.

bigballz · #9 04-08-2006, 05:45 PM

I think AJ and AQ are super likely here. Any yes, that is super foolish thinking

caretaker1 · #10 04-08-2006, 05:45 PM

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I also thought, perhaps foolishly, that no sane person would call another bet on the river with a hand worse than TPTK.

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Many folks would call all-in there with AX.