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Old 04-07-2006, 11:31 PM
SlantNGo SlantNGo is offline
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Default 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

Villain is 39/20/3.2 and had high fold to bet percentages for a LAG. Against most players here I raise this from the SB, with the exception of very loose but passive players, for which I open-limp. I'm not sure what to do with it against a LAG though.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

I think this was a very bad raise. He either has a made hand, a draw, or overcards, and he's not folding any of the 3.

River: (8 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

I should call here, eh? What if I only called the turn?

Final Pot: 9 BB
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:27 AM
Pog0 Pog0 is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

you're getting value or folds out of overcards often... he's probably folding all non-diamond overs, and you're ahead of diamond-overs, since you saw that he folds to raises, the turn c/r isn't bad. Calling down isn't bad either... the river looks like a very tough decision.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:34 AM
MacGuyV MacGuyV is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

I prefer the fish line vs. Lags - check/call turn, check/call river.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

I'd c/c turn and c/f river UI. Even for a LAG that turn card just improved a ton of his range.
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

Well, you are right, the turn raise is silly. I'd just call this down and fold the river. Everything legitimate that raises the flop has caught a showdown hand by the turn. If he raised the flop illegitimately, then oh well, we can still catch up with a ton of outs or he bluffs us out of a small pot. If it starts to look like he's trying his hardest to outplay you, then call it down.
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:23 AM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

I would seriously consider folding the turn. Is this too weak in a blind vs blind situation?
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Old 04-08-2006, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

Considering you have the nut flush draw, yeah I'd say it's a tad too weak.
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Old 04-08-2006, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

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I would seriously consider folding the turn. Is this too weak in a blind vs blind situation?

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Without the nut flush draw I would strongly consider folding the turn.
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Old 04-08-2006, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

I'd probably call the river getting 9:1. You'd be surprised how many overcards or busted flushes you see.

Oh yeah... and your turn check raise is pretty pukey.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2 in the SB vs. LA-A

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I'd probably call the river getting 9:1. You'd be surprised how many overcards or busted flushes you see.

Oh yeah... and your turn check raise is pretty pukey.

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But would you call the river only getting 7:1 assuming I just check/called the turn? I know the turn c/r was bad, but I'm wondering whether I should fold or call the river if I just called the turn, and I think it's close.
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