Nitty full ring hand

[Isura]

Typical full ring game. First orbit. Game is playing pretty tight-passive.
Villain has only about a PSB left in her stack on the flop. Thoughts?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $104.22
UTG+1: $36.75
MP1: $32.20
MP2: $8.25
CO: $36.70
Hero: $49.25
SB: $24.50
BB: $43.25

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $7.5</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($23.75, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($25.25, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 is all-in $0.25</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($26, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $26)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

[Miyogi]

Maybe this is just me but do you normally raise 8BB with KQo and then call a limp raise? In my experience limp raises tend to mean AK at the worst.

[texasholdem2]

How about re-raising PF to isolate play w/MP2? The short stack could have anything and your only a slight underdog to Ax. I would have made a 2/3 size bet on the flop. The 0.5 flop bet made it real cheap for UTG+1 to out draw you with him holding Ax.

Any thoughts?

[Mercman572]

I think I like a bet of $12-18 on the turn to maybe build a sidepot since you're probably losing to MP. UTG hasn't shown strength yet and might pay you off with an PP since you have such an odd line and the pot is now juicy. It is also very unlikely that UTG would push the river after this turn bet with a hand you beat. So you can check behind river or fold to a push while still getting some value.

Take this with a grain of salt though; I play mostly 6max so I can't put UTG on a reasonable range of hands here.

[cbloom]

I don't mind how you played it. The sexy move is clearly to push preflop, since UTG+1 almost certainly folds and you get heads up with MP2, who I would guess has a mid pair.

The button raise is clearly intended to take the pot, I like it if you think people will fold often enough.

[brick]

If you're putting MP2 on a weak hand because he only has $8 in his stack then the PF call is probably ok.

I would raise to $8 on the flop. Any good arguments against raising the flop?

[Mercman572]

Oh my, did not realize how many limped and the size of your raise. I don't mind this as played and my line becomes much more debatable because a lower PP is much less likely to pay you off

[ChipStorm]

Why did you give UTG+1 two free chances to spike his set?

[Mercman572]

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Why did you give UTG+1 two free chances to spike his set?

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I don't mind the flop check. Yeah it is being nitty, but after this action we almost definitely lose UTG+1. By the turn I think it's probably time to bet though (depending on the likelihood that smaller PP's will call)

[markum9]

I like all streets, although i could see a raise on the flop or turn to get more of utg+1 in the pot.

When i see a shortie limp/reraise, the most likely holding IMO is a medium pocket pair. Their thought process is to see a cheap flop, but once they can't get there they reraise to fold out hands and improve their odds. Of course, he could be doing this with AA/KK/AK/AQ or similar that you don't want to see, but with the minraise you're getting odds to call.