Limping Aces (and others)

[AltarBoyCHA]

howdy,
eegah's post got me thinking, in the other direction.

hypo: AA in the co, fairly tight game, including tight blinds.

how would i go about determining the EV of limping these hands v. raising?

Let's say i think a raise in late position will fold around and win me the blinds. i think a limp might encourage a raise from behind, meaning i'll get hu action with someone who has position but a weaker starting hand. It might also encourage the big blind to hang around, since he might want to play for what he perceives to be dead money coming from my limping.

Now, limping encourages more people to play, which decreases my chances of winning the pot. How would I go about figuring out which is more profitable? I figure i'd have to determine:

1.) how likely it is a raise will fold everyone out
2.) how much more action i'll get from limping
3.) how much more likely it is that action will cost me the pot; which should all help determine
4.) the difference in money won

this is only an issue when playing a really big starting hand from late position. any thoughts?

[Eeegah]

Oh I get it, this is...just the introduction to the opposite sketches. (sigh)

[river me please]

At this level I never limp Aces or Kings for that matter. I would rather win a small pot then lose a big one. Limping is just begging for it.

[SoftcoreRevolt]

Raise preflop.

[bigbrother36]

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how would i go about determining the EV of limping these hands v. raising?

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Put this [-] in front of it.

[Commie]

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how would i go about determining the EV of limping these hands v. raising?

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Put this [-] in front of it.

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ROFL

[Aaron W.]

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Let's say i think a raise in late position will fold around and win me the blinds. i think a limp might encourage a raise from behind, meaning i'll get hu action with someone who has position but a weaker starting hand. It might also encourage the big blind to hang around, since he might want to play for what he perceives to be dead money coming from my limping.

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Who cares how it plays when you have AA? You should be raising 40-50% (or more) in this precise situation. The gain of knowing whether to limp or raise AA is small compared to knowing that you should be pounding the tight blinds most of the time.

[FUJItheFISH]

AAwesome. Do you use hundies to wipe your ass in the morning too?

[SWB]

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Let's say i think a raise in late position will fold around and win me the blinds.

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If that's the case, then your question shouldn't be "how do I play AA", it should be "how do I play any other two cards?" And the answer is: raise. Eventually, people will start playing back at you, and then you can adjust your hand selection accordingly (and incidentally get action when you do have a monster), but if everybody's folding preflop when you raise it's a pretty strong sign that you're not raising nearly enough.

[milesdyson]

my standard play with aces:

limp/call/check preflop depending.
check or call flop
check or call turn
bet/raise/3-bet/cap river depending.