oh god, im posting a should i fold KK pre flop here question

[matv]

no reads on villain, this is going by memory

UTG has 200+BB
HERO has 130BB

UTG limps, folds around, me in SB raises to 5BB, UTG raises to 21BB, HERO raises to 65BB, UTG raises all in, HERO??

its a call reraise UTG and the 4th raise...flame away [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[epdaws]

Well, you CERTAINLY have to call, considering half your stack is in there. You understand that, right?

But yeah, you're up against aces most of the time. Oh well.

[matv]

yer..not getting good odds against aces though

[epdaws]

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yer..not getting good odds against aces though

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Right. But you'd kill yourself if you get half your stack in with KK and then fold preflop. Or at least you should.

[matv]

not if he showed me aces [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[mudbuddha]

unless u can see he has aces..
dont fold

[Ra_]

i don't like the 4 bet, against a limp/raise. this is 95% AA/KK. call and hope you get a board that will get you a cheapish showdown or flop a set.

[djoyce003]

what makes this post even dumber than the normal "should I fold KK preflop" posts, is that in this one, you've already got half your stack in there. The only debatable part of this is you raising to $65 to begin with.......after you raise and get limp-reraised, just call.

Once you've put in half your stack, you can't consider folding KK preflop ever. Jesus.

[CappyAA]

You're getting exactly 3-1 odds here. You'd need 4-1 if you were POSITIVE he has AA, but you aren't. This is a must-call here. I think you see AK, QQ, or the rare other KK here enough to make up for the extra odds you are missing out on.

[matv]

how often does every1 think im seeing AA or KK here and how often does every1 think im seeing QQ AK or some other random hand here?