Call all in on river in small pot?

[kayla]

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $167.15
UTG+1: $84.93
UTG+2: $83.28
MP1: $211.29
MP2: $84.25
MP3: $109.80
CO: $64.46
Hero: $162.60
SB: $112.35
BB: $12.90

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7, 7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($7, 7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($7, 7 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $166.15</font>, Hero?

[PlayaHata]

is this a joke? its a split pot more then 90% of the time. he has quad jokes 1 in 453245436346 times. call.

bet flop or turn, or flop AND turn. if he had a set on the flop you would know he did if he reraised you at any point.

[kayla]

you think it is +EV to bet this flop, it is seven players in the pot, and I am not crazy about my kicker. About the turn I agree that a bet could be in place.

My thoughts about the river push was that it was very likely to be a split pot, if we say it is a split pot 95% of the time, the call would be -EV if he has JJ the last 5% of the time, right?

[meanjean]

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you think it is +EV to bet this flop, it is seven players in the pot, and I am not crazy about my kicker. About the turn I agree that a bet could be in place.

My thoughts about the river push was that it was very likely to be a split pot, if we say it is a split pot 95% of the time, the call would be -EV if he has JJ the last 5% of the time, right?

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Your kicker doesn't matter..

edit...sorry you meant the flop

[PlayaHata]

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you think it is +EV to bet this flop, it is seven players in the pot, and I am not crazy about my kicker. About the turn I agree that a bet could be in place.

My thoughts about the river push was that it was very likely to be a split pot, if we say it is a split pot 95% of the time, the call would be -EV if he has JJ the last 5% of the time, right?

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yes but he doesnt have JJ 5% of the time. i would say he has JJ MAYBE at most 1% of the time. i call this allday and allnight and twice on sundays.
you bet the flop because you want to know where you stand. doenst matter if its +ev or -ev, the fact that you gain information by betting is more important in this spot then exepected value.

[theben]

theres a 0% chance you are dragging in this whole pot

[PlayaHata]

but there is 1% chance that you arent getting half.

[maccamack]

Call everytime - you get to split the $3 post rake money.

Hang on - calling $166 something to win $1.50??? surely on this basis you have to question the &gt;1% chance that he has JJ?

[kayla]

Exactly this was my first thinking.

[PlayaHata]

JJ raises PF. Thats the only thing that you dont beat. I cant believe we are discussing this. I bet you see 1 jack more often then you see chop pot. if you lose to JJ, buddy list that fool and let him slow play himself to death.

this is why we bet flop and turn. if he had a set of jacks on the flop, we would have heard from it by now.