Who the $&*# checks behind?

nuggetz87 · #1 04-05-2006, 04:33 PM

Is this turn check like really bad? I planned on raising AI (obv).

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1550)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1490)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO raises to t60, Button folds, Hero raises to t180, BB folds, CO calls t120

Flop: (t390) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t220, CO calls t220

Turn: (t830) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (t830) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t1100 (All-in), Hero folds

HedonismBot · #2 04-05-2006, 04:34 PM

Maybe a set of tens

sngmachine · #3 04-05-2006, 04:34 PM

what do you expect us to tell you, yes your stupid, satisfied?

nuggetz87 · #4 04-05-2006, 04:39 PM

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Nice post moron

costanza_g · #5 04-05-2006, 04:46 PM

buy-in?

Dead$$$Walking · #6 04-05-2006, 04:48 PM

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Is this turn check like really bad? I planned on raising AI (obv).

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1550)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1490)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO raises to t60, Button folds, Hero raises to t180, BB folds, CO calls t120

Flop: (t390) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t220, CO calls t220

Turn: (t830) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (t830) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t1100 (All-in), Hero folds

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bet more on the flop, like 300, 325 or so. If he calls, checking is more effective in enducing a bluff or valuebetting his 10 (pot is bigger). As it is, I think the pot is too small to check the turn.

nuggetz87 · #7 04-05-2006, 04:50 PM

ty Dead$$$. BTW it's a $16 Turbo.

pooh74 · #8 04-05-2006, 04:50 PM

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Is this turn check like really bad? I planned on raising AI (obv).

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1550)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1490)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO raises to t60, Button folds, Hero raises to t180, BB folds, CO calls t120

Flop: (t390) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t220, CO calls t220

Turn: (t830) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (t830) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t1100 (All-in), Hero folds

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bet more on the flop, like 300, 325 or so. If he calls, checking is more effective in enducing a bluff or valuebetting his 10 (pot is bigger). As it is, I think the pot is too small to check the turn.

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Very good points...

IOW, I think the flop bet size is fine here...its a raggedy board etc... however, I would bet the turn.

FoldYourLife · #9 04-05-2006, 04:52 PM

You need to bet this turn. You can't assume villain is going to bet. Charge him for drawing or make him pay you off w/ a worse hand.

pooh74 · #10 04-05-2006, 04:59 PM

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Is this turn check like really bad? I planned on raising AI (obv).

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1550)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1490)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO raises to t60, Button folds, Hero raises to t180, BB folds, CO calls t120

Flop: (t390) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t220, CO calls t220

Turn: (t830) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (t830) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t1100 (All-in), Hero folds

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bet more on the flop, like 300, 325 or so. If he calls, checking is more effective in enducing a bluff or valuebetting his 10 (pot is bigger). As it is, I think the pot is too small to check the turn.

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well...what's he raising with and calling a RR with PF that allows him to draw on this board? I think you're either already losing to a set here, up against AA, or way ahead only allowing him to draw to 2-3 outs...so I don't think its the worst play.

Just to clarify, on the turn I think you're ahead way more than behind...didnt mean to make it sound like a 50/50 proposition.