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Old 04-05-2006, 09:13 AM
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Default 10/20 KK Line check

10/20NL Full Tilt 5-handed

I have only been at the table for 2 orbits but in that time I have created a wild and lag imagie. Withing the 2 oribits I have been up to 2300, back down to 1400, and now sitting with about 2.2k. I have been playing a ton of hands raising and reraising alot of them, so a shot at me is likely.

Hero 2200
Villan 2300

folded around to the button who makes it 80 to go. Sb folds and I make it 240 with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Villan smooth calls.

Flop(490) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero leads for 400??? Villan Min. raises to 800. Hero?

What is my line here? Is this a good spot to get it in?
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:26 AM
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all you can eat, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaby.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 KK Line check

I think you will see an even combo of AT, JJ, QQ, and TT here, so I would think its a good place to get it in. you will see AA every once in a while, but i think the three bet will get him to push PF if you have a crazy image.
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:39 PM
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AT the time it came off as if he was trapping me. The smooth call preflop and the min. raise on the flop. The only thing is as you said it could be AT, 1010-QQ far to many times as it would be AA. I felt the best line possible was to put it in, knowing I would get payed by all hands i could beat and only lose to AA or 1010
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:57 PM
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Withing the 2 oribits I have been up to 2300, back down to 1400, and now sitting with about 2.2k. I have been playing a ton of hands raising and reraising alot of them, so a shot at me is likely.


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CRAZY SWINGS!!!
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 KK Line check

Sounds a lot like AA or TT.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:26 PM
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Sounds a lot like AA or TT.

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So what are you saying? Do you find a way to fold here, or is that just out of the question?
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:27 PM
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its out of the question, basically.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:34 PM
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ok, thanks......Hate postings hands like theses were you have a feeling but you know that its out of the question to fold. just wanted to make sure with a line check.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 KK Line check

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Sounds a lot like AA or TT.

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So what are you saying? Do you find a way to fold here, or is that just out of the question?

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I know folding sounds pretty absurd but realistically, unless you know Villain is very bad, makes very complicated bluffs, or knows that your 3-betting range PF is pretty wide, what is he thinking here?

IMO hands like AT, JJ, QQ would just call unless they were going to fold to a raise. Therefore, if you think he is capable bluffing and/or raising these marginal holdings here a push is not good on the flop since only AA or TT should call.

IMO opinion though you are looking at AA most often here followed by TT and QQ. With reads I don't think folding is 100% out of the question, but without I would call flop and get money in on turn.
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