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Old 04-03-2006, 09:37 PM
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Default stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

no reads. first level of 20+2 180 players sng. could i have done anything different? how should i play the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t1560)
Hero (t1460)
UTG (t1910)
UTG+1 (t1540)
MP1 (t840)
MP2 (t1410)
CO (t1890)
Button (t1370)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t60</font>, UTG+1 calls t60, MP1 calls t60, SB folds.

Turn: (t260) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, UTG+1 calls t250, MP1 calls t250.

River: (t1010) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t140</font>, MP1 calls t140, Hero ??
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

that river bet is pretty weak, you might be able to get two folds with a push, but if you dont' want to go that route, i woudl lay it down.
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.


Checkraise the flop with air. Make it 200+ if someone pots it. I wouldnt bet out because the pot is to small to be worth any protection against all the callingstations in a 20+2. If it gets checked around I would lead the turn, and 3bet if the turn is good (with air).
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

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that river bet is pretty weak, you might be able to get two folds with a push, but if you dont' want to go that route, i woudl lay it down.

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Very tempting... but i would try not to do that in a 20+2, you will get called by middle pair+ way to often.
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

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Checkraise the flop with air. Make it 200+ if someone pots it. I wouldnt bet out because the pot is to small to be worth any protection against all the callingstations in a 20+2. If it gets checked around I would lead the turn, and 3bet if the turn is good (with air).

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i really don't see how i can do this on this hand.
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

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Checkraise the flop with air. Make it 200+ if someone pots it. I wouldnt bet out because the pot is to small to be worth any protection against all the callingstations in a 20+2. If it gets checked around I would lead the turn, and 3bet if the turn is good (with air).

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i really don't see how i can do this on this hand.

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Why?
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

because i flopped two pair? doesn't 'with air' mean that i'm basically making those moves with no showdown value?
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

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Checkraise the flop with air. Make it 200+ if someone pots it. I wouldnt bet out because the pot is to small to be worth any protection against all the callingstations in a 20+2. If it gets checked around I would lead the turn, and 3bet if the turn is good (with air).

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i really don't see how i can do this on this hand.

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Why?

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edit: OP, fold. Sucky river card, but you can't overcall here [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

do i have any other options before the river? would an absurd overbet on the flop or turn be unjustified? seems like i stack unthinking AA/KK.
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: stars 20/180. flopped two pair gets counterfeited on river.

no, i think it was played fine. i might bet a little less on the turn. its fine.
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