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Old 04-02-2006, 12:07 AM
Lafortezza Lafortezza is offline
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Default A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

Villain (according to PT) is a decent winner at PL$400, I don't have many hands on him at PL$200. Been at a couple of his tables tonight and

1) He's raising quite a few hands, seemingly not bothered about position.

2) The hands that he has shown down have been decent enough, marginal to be raising with from the blinds/EP maybe.

3) His post flop aggression also usually has a reason behind it, some kind of a draw, or blockers to the current nuts. I've seen him bluff once with air but that was against a short stack.

4) He is steaming slightly, he has mentioned several times that he's been on the losing side of set-over-set so far tonight.


Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $284.63
Hero: $235.70
MP1: $399.96
MP2: $221.42
MP3: $278.42
CO: $223.35
Button: $197
SB: $682.59
BB: $62.20

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $11</font>, BB folds, Hero calls, MP2 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($26, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB insta-bets $22.8</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($71.6, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB insta-bets $66.6</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($204.8, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB insta-bets $199.8</font>,

Hero ??


I was hoping that with my quick calls on the flop and turn that he'd slow down, especially when a hand like QJT9 get's there on the end. But no, he pots every street.

Call or fold the river? I thought for the max time before deciding.



Also is anyone getting slightly garbled emails when they request hand historys from Party? Using gmail.
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Old 04-02-2006, 01:06 AM
Dave Coulier Dave Coulier is offline
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

I would have perferred a reraise on the flop or at least the turn. If the villain is able to lay down his marginal hands to pressure then this is a good time to find out if he has a marginal hand or the goods.

Letting it go to the river can only make things worse for you if he actually has a draw on the flop. If he's known to bet large with just two pair then I would probably call his bet on the river.
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Old 04-02-2006, 03:10 AM
Gunslinger12 Gunslinger12 is offline
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

if you think you had the best hand, money should have went in before river..
therwise you should have folded
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Old 04-02-2006, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

Turn is either a repot allin or fold. Calling accomplishes nothing. I assume after you called the turn that you were willing to go broke on a safe river , so why let him get there with a draw like 10 j Q with the diamonds. As played, I fold the river pretty quickly. I don't think you see anything but AA or 10 J here almost ever.
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Old 04-02-2006, 08:50 AM
Troll_Inc Troll_Inc is offline
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

I agree with everyone that should show strength on the flop, and will add that in addition to getting more informatin on the Villain's hand, it will be a lot cheaper, potentially. If he does indeed have AA, it is unlikely he would just call, putting you on a straight or flush draw. If he has 55 or a draw himself, he might fold for you.

Also, re: Gmail. If you are a table and hit send HH to email, then all emails after the 2nd one seem to get threaded and then garbled. What I do is have gmail open, and immediately process the email, i.e. cut and paste to an new email with a title for that hand, or add some notes, and resend to myself or save as a draft. Delete the email before sending yourself another one.
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Old 04-02-2006, 10:50 AM
Lafortezza Lafortezza is offline
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

Thanks for the replies. I probably did play it quite badly, at the time I thought that a raise by me on the flop or turn would get villain to fold alot of worse hands, he's tilting but not stupid. I was also hoping he'd slow down on the river so I could get to a cheaper showdown.

Results: I call the river bet after a long think and Villain shows 9976 for a decent draw on the turn.

Villain continues to drop $600 in a short period, unfortunately none to me.
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Old 04-02-2006, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

Yeah, raise him on the flop. If he shows strength you can fold, knowing that you are either a big underdog or are in a coinflip.
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Old 04-02-2006, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

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unfortunately none to me.

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$250 &gt; none.
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:20 AM
Riddick Riddick is offline
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

When you all say "show strength on the flop", do you do this by min-raising, half-pot raising, or pot-raising?
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: A speeding decent LAG (PL$200 Party)

At a B&amp;M I show strength on the flop by flexing and growling.
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