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Old 03-31-2006, 11:29 AM
Maple Leafs Maple Leafs is offline
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Default [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

Not trying to be tricky here, but in this case I've switched it up -- I'm actually the villian here, and would like to think through this as the villian. I think with the stacks as they are this should be an insta-call, but I'm curious to see what hand you put me on here.

I'm at a stage where I've moved beyond playing just my own cards and now spend more time thinking about my opponent. But I don't have a good sense for how my opponents perceive me, which I guess is the next step.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (2 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Villian (t3605)
Hero (t9895)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Villian calls t75, Hero checks

Flop: (t300) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">Villian bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150

Turn: (t600) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">Villian bets t3305 (All-in)</font>, Hero ...
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Old 03-31-2006, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

Call because villain is probably donk with K or maybe a high spade.
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Old 03-31-2006, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

The board is just too coordinated to call here. Hero should have checked the flop or bet more to find out where he is, but my vote is for a check. Hero has more the 2x's villians stack, there is no reason to get over zealous on this coordinated board when Hero can easily make up the 300 chips he could lose by folding here with a few steals.
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Old 03-31-2006, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

call in a HEARTBEAT. as HedonismBot said:

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because villain is probably donk with K or maybe a high spade.


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Old 03-31-2006, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

Given that the villian here is me, I can confirm he is a donk.

Still, he's a donk that's at least trying to look like he has a hand. Do you believe him?
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

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Given that the villian here is me, I can confirm he is a donk.

Still, he's a donk that's at least trying to look like he has a hand. Do you believe him?

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i think that if i was playing against an opponent who had flopped a flush, they would not be open pushing the turn when checked-to, after i check-called the flop. they would want value out of their flush and thus would not be betting it so hard. to me, when i see an overbet like that i think AsXo or Kxo.
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

I "might" fold this at a $60 but I'm definately not folding it at a lower buyin.
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

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Given that the villian here is me, I can confirm he is a donk.

Still, he's a donk that's at least trying to look like he has a hand. Do you believe him?

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No, I don't believe him, but I'm not going to risk 3500+ chips here when I can keep abusing him with my big chip stack.
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

The hand seen most often is a set actually IMO.
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: [PS $5.5] You be my opponent - Bottom two pair, villian pushes.

wtf is with this advice?

The 2 pair guy should call this hand everytime at every level without an insane read on the villain.

The pusher in the above hand is not representing a good hand. He's saying that he wants to end that hand now because he has a K, the As, or crap and hes the bluffing king of the world.

Also, at the $5s, you should not be trying to represent any hand at all. Play your cards. People will not care that you are representing AA on a J53 flop. They will still call with 95o because you always have AK.
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