I know it's +$EV to push this....

[Scuba Chuck]

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t500 (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Button (t1060)
Hero (t2540)
BB (t4400)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

[pergesu]

Is it? Looks to me like, at least ITM, big stack would often call enough to make this -EV or at the least very close. Did you run it through SNGPT? I'm too lazy.

[Gunther]

Its a really close call, so I would lean towards folding. You havent given us any reads at all, so it is hard to really give advice on this. K5o is about a 53% favorite over a random hand. I really dont like the idea of stealing blinds against the big stack with something this mediocre, but thats just me.

[imsobroke]

Even as a maniac BB it's +0.7, 25% it's +0.5.

[pergesu]

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Even as a maniac BB it's +0.7, 25% it's +0.5.

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I'm getting a neutral EV at 22% call range (33+,A3o+,A2s+,KJo+,KTs+,QJs), whih is just a tad tighter than maniac (doesn't include 22). Since I think a lot of players will be calling at least 22%, it's a safe fold.

[imsobroke]

At 22% I still get +0.7.

[zabt]

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Even as a maniac BB it's +0.7, 25% it's +0.5.

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I'm getting a neutral EV at 22% call range (33+,A3o+,A2s+,KJo+,KTs+,QJs), whih is just a tad tighter than maniac (doesn't include 22). Since I think a lot of players will be calling at least 22%, it's a safe fold.

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You're blind discounting (which may be appropriate).

[seke2]

I think I fold this mostly because the small stack will have half his chips in next hand with a random hand, and you'll have pot odds to call his push with anything, and that spot will be clearly +EV as where this one is very marginally +EV at best.

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PartyPoker, Big Blind is t500 (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Button (t1060)
Hero (t2540)
BB (t4400)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

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I get 0.3% for maniac, 0.1% for 25%.

That's not a sufficient edge to motivate me to push that hand with the 2xBB stack up to pay the BB next.

[citanul]

so push then.

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