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Old 12-05-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default QQ against known 2+2 player - non-standard ? line

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

UTG ($685.35)
Hero ($833.20)
CO ($331.75)
Button ($711)
SB ($1007.25)
BB ($945.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $25</font>, Hero calls $25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($59) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

Turn: ($159) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $150</font>, Hero calls $150.

River: ($459) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG calls $460.35 (All-In).

Could you consider calling the river and what do you think of my line in general ?


Its not my standard line, but I like to mix things up a little against a likely thinking opponent.

Could you consider calling the river and what do you think of my line in general ?
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: QQ against known 2+2 player - non-standard ? line

PF and Flop look alright, insofar as this is an atypical line, but I think I would push the turn.

On the river, it looks like he puts you on a hand that will call that bet, so you should probably fold.
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Old 12-05-2005, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: QQ against known 2+2 player - non-standard ? line

I would push the turn.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: QQ against known 2+2 player - non-standard ? line

That turn bet seems really big. Is that typical for him?
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ against known 2+2 player - non-standard ? line

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That turn bet seems really big. Is that typical for him?

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Exactly. Looks a lot like he puts you on a weak drawing hand, or maybe a decent drawing hand that will "have to fold" here. Push also looks very strong, and if he calls here with JJ, he'll call with KK and vice versa I think.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: QQ against known 2+2 player - non-standard ? line

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That turn bet seems really big. Is that typical for him?

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He tend to bet bigger than most, and he also know I'm quite tight. To me, his turn bet look like he is either weak or very strong. I think he is able to do a double barrel bluff.
I did not liked the Ace on the river for that reason.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:26 PM
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PF and Flop look alright, insofar as this is an atypical line, but I think I would push the turn.

On the river, it looks like he puts you on a hand that will call that bet, so you should probably fold.

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I tought that most people would reraise before the flop or raise on the flop ?
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: QQ against known 2+2 player - non-standard ? line

I would definitely call the river.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:31 PM
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PF and Flop look alright ,insofar as this is an atypical line, but I think I would push the turn.

On the river, it looks like he puts you on a hand that will call that bet, so you should probably fold.

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I tought that most people would reraise before the flop or raise on the flop ?

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They would.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: QQ against known 2+2 player - non-standard ? line

This vs Acehistation?

I'd probably push turn. River is gross, since he might play Ax hands this way.
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