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Old 01-08-2006, 11:05 PM
mikewvp mikewvp is offline
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Default TT gets 3 bet, K X X flop, mistakes so far? what now?

Opponent is sLAG so I have my doubts aboutt the king, once the ace hits I do I just check / fold?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (6.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:06 PM
naMruM naMruM is offline
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Default Re: TT gets 3 bet, K X X flop, mistakes so far? what now?

I check/call.

I think we probably should have led the flop.
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:09 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: TT gets 3 bet, K X X flop, mistakes so far? what now?

I don't know what range we should assign to Villain, but he's been playing like someone with a pocket pair or maybe a big ace. (A hand he decided to slowplay beginning on the turn can't be completely ruled out, though.)

So, then, here are some combos:

QQ = 6
JJ = 6
AQ = 12
AJs = 3

88 = 6
77 = 6

I don't know how we should weight these possibilities, but I'm thinking we can check-call, getting 7:1. I'd suggest a bet-fold, but I doubt Villain will drop QQ or JJ, and since he's sLA, there's some chance he'll bluff-raise to represent the ace.

If you don't think Villain will 3-bet pocket pairs below 99 preflop, then I think it's time to give up, unless Villain is the type to 3-bet hands like 98s on occasion.
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:55 AM
bigalt bigalt is offline
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Default Re: TT gets 3 bet, K X X flop, mistakes so far? what now?

If you want to lead the turn on a blank, why wouldn't you bring it on the flop? If this guy aggressive, the donk is sort of begging for a raise, which I can't really see you being able to call.
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Old 01-09-2006, 01:13 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: TT gets 3 bet, K X X flop, mistakes so far? what now?

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If you want to lead the turn on a blank, why wouldn't you bring it on the flop? If this guy aggressive, the donk is sort of begging for a raise, which I can't really see you being able to call.

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I wouldn't lead the turn. I would check-call or check-fold. (I don't know which, partly because the read we have is a little vague, and I'm not sure what kind of range to give Villain.)

If we can count on Villain raising better hands and just better hands, though, leading the turn is a way to potentially get away from our hand more cheaply (versus calling down). And I'd imagine we'll face auto-raises less often on the turn than on the flop.

Also, we do deny a check-behind to AQ, if that's what Villain has and that's what he'd do. (It doesn't sound like he's checking behind very often, though.) We're also not giving AQ particularly good odds, and that's good for us if Villain won't bet it himself and won't bluff-raise.
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