boring QQ preflop.

crosse91 · #1 03-29-2006, 05:26 AM

EP is open pushing any two and has thrown a party for the table (check the stacks) Auto-call if not for MP caller. But he called. Now what? Not only did he call, but he didn't push. What do you do in this situation?
Note: MP is a good player and is probably aware that he's smooth calling, not pushing into me. This can be taken either way, he's got a hand not worthy of 500! bb's, or he's got aa.
What do you do?
500bb's is crazy with qq, but i might be ahead.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $386.45
UTG+1: $394.85
CO: $1070.46
Button: $1436.05
Hero: $1715.02
BB: $195

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc3333">UTG raises all-in $386.45</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $386.45, Button folds, Hero ??????

traz · #2 03-29-2006, 05:31 AM

I push

crosse91 · #3 03-29-2006, 05:33 AM

why?

jsnipes28 · #4 03-29-2006, 05:33 AM

I imagine that most villains would be a bit scared of losing 500bbs and would push AA here.

I obviously don't like pushing but i think a fold is out of the question as well.

I would just call and hope for unders. Villain isn't going to be bluffing a dry sidepot.

AllIn3High · #5 03-29-2006, 05:36 AM

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I would just call and hope for unders. Villain isn't going to be bluffing a dry sidepot.

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Pot will be $1100 and how do you know Villian is just not protecting his 88 against your percieved AK in a huge [censored] pot? How much money would you put in before you're convinced he's got you beat?

I think preflop is all-in or fold.

traz · #6 03-29-2006, 05:39 AM

Preflop is definitely all-in or fold...I think you're big against villain's hand range, and on top of that if he folds, there's a lot of dead money in the pot probably going your way.

shobute · #7 03-29-2006, 05:40 AM

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I would just call and hope for unders.

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This doesn't make sense.

If you're going to stack off if the flop comes unders (and lose to AA KK) then why give 3 free cards to AK or JJ or whatever else?

I think this is fold or push.

crosse91 · #8 03-29-2006, 05:40 AM

last question before i go to bed.
What is MP's range for a call/fold? Esp having to call 600 into a 1900 pot?

ski · #9 03-29-2006, 05:41 AM

Hi crosse.

1. This post makes me want to play 6 max.
2. You can easily solve this by plugging in UtGs range and CO' range into PokerStove. I think you will see JJ+TT or worse just as often as AA/KK here. If your bankroll can handle it this looks like a push.

Kilillan · #10 03-29-2006, 05:42 AM

Why the hell am I still playing pot limit?