Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > MTT Strategy
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-28-2006, 02:20 PM
KingMedicine KingMedicine is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 1,304
Default odd hand in 20/180 stars tourney

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t1885)
UTG (t3805)
UTG+1 (t5925)
MP1 (t2835)
MP2 (t2220)
CO (t2790)
Button (t1930)
SB (t4650)

Preflop: Hero is BB with jd, 9d.
3 folds, MP2 calls t100, 1 fold, Button calls t100, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flopt400) jc, jh, 9s
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t400) js
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

River(t400) 9h
UTG checks, Hero???
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-28-2006, 02:23 PM
Boxman Boxman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Seeking the meaning of \"2+2\"
Posts: 179
Default Re: odd hand in 20/180 stars tourney

Value bet t150. UTG/MP2 will think you're stealing and hopefully will call to play the board.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-28-2006, 02:26 PM
seke2 seke2 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,885
Default Re: odd hand in 20/180 stars tourney

I don't mind checking the flop hoping that someone else will bet. You have to give them a chance to catch up. But I think on the turn, with you being OOP, you have to bet and hope someone else has a low pocket pair or a 9 and will call your bet.

The reality is that you aren't going to get much money on this board unless someone has an overpair to the board or is willing to call down the river playing the board, which is fairly unlikely in a 4-way pot. It's tough to get paid when nobody else can have a hand that beats the board and you know it. the case 9 doesn't even play.

I honestly might even consider pushing the turn because it looks like such a bluff and nobody would actually believe you'd have the hand you have. I think on the turn, you're trying to figure out how to get a naked ace to call.

As it played out, I'd probably overbet the river or donkbet (minbet or close to it) the river to try and get someone else to call off my "bluff" or try to bluff me out of the pot.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-28-2006, 02:35 PM
betgo betgo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,430
Default Re: odd hand in 20/180 stars tourney

I would bet atleast pot on the river. It looks like you are bluffin and someone will call to play the board. The only way anyone beats the board is with a J or TT-AA. You checked in the BB, so it is unlikely you have TT-AA.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-28-2006, 02:38 PM
stevepa stevepa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Team Pokerstars
Posts: 2,909
Default Re: odd hand in 20/180 stars tourney

I might even push the river. Some donk will call playing the board. The advantage of betting 200-300 is you might get 2 or even 3 calls.

Steve
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-28-2006, 02:52 PM
Beachman42 Beachman42 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Havana Daydreamin\'
Posts: 1,770
Default Re: odd hand in 20/180 stars tourney

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t1885)
UTG (t3805)
UTG+1 (t5925)
MP1 (t2835)
MP2 (t2220)
CO (t2790)
Button (t1930)
SB (t4650)

Preflop: Hero is BB with jd, 9d.
3 folds, MP2 calls t100, 1 fold, Button calls t100, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flopt400) jc, jh, 9s
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t400) js
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

River(t400) 9h
UTG checks, Hero???

[/ QUOTE ]

Push, no call = T2,200
Push, 1 call = T4,000

Donkbet T200 & avg. 1.5 calls (1 or 2) = T2,600

In my opinion, pushing is clearly the best option if you get a call just over 20% of the time. In the 180 donk-fests, this is certainly possible. Also, you *might* get more than 1 caller, but that's pretty remote.

FWIW, I probably min-bet the turn looking for a curious caller or 2, but I'm pushing the river here as played.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.