there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ

KKbluff · #1 03-27-2006, 01:19 AM

As outlined in the book "The Bell Curve" there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ that cannot be sufficiently explained by environmental factors such as nutrition, social policy, or racism.

I havent read this monster of a book (yet), but does anyone care on elaborating a little more on this?

bunny · #2 03-27-2006, 01:25 AM

I dont think it's very clear what IQ measures (I dont think it's intelligence) but whatever it is is clearly affected by culture so I guess that would explain a difference. Not sure that it means very much though.

Jshuttlesworth · #3 03-27-2006, 01:35 AM

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I dont think it's very clear what IQ measures (I dont think it's intelligence)

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Care to elaborate?

Go Blue · #4 03-27-2006, 01:39 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ#IQ_correlations

"Neither test bias nor simple differences in socioeconomic status explain the IQ differences."

MidGe · #5 03-27-2006, 01:58 AM

As has been mentionned many times on this forum. The problem is that racial identification is a fiction. There are no scientific ways to consistently identify race (genetics have made this absolutely clear).

Jshuttlesworth · #6 03-27-2006, 02:02 AM

sigh

KKbluff · #7 03-27-2006, 02:16 AM

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There are no scientific ways to consistently identify race (genetics have made this absolutely clear).

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I believe you, but do you have any references that I can read that will back this up?

EDIT: nevermind, I just noticed Go Blue and his link.

Jshuttlesworth · #8 03-27-2006, 02:17 AM

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I believe you

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WHY?!?

KKbluff · #9 03-27-2006, 02:19 AM

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I believe you

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WHY?!?

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Ok, well, "I trust his info is correct" is more of what I was trying to get at.
That said, I still wanted some proof to back it up.

bunny · #10 03-27-2006, 02:25 AM

I have never seen a very good definition of intelligence but I have seen people I consider intelligent with very poor scores. I also happen to be good at IQ tests and get a high score - but I dont consider myself very intelligent.

Another telling point (I believe) is you can read a book on "How to improve your IQ" and boost your scores fairly substantially with minimal effort - I doubt many would say you have suddenly become more intelligent though.