Calling down with sevens.

Colonel Kataffy · #1 03-21-2006, 01:20 AM

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $22.17
Button: $29.72
SB: $24.75
BB: $32.70

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, SB folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.1, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, BB folds.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($7.1, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero calls $2.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($11.1, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3, Hero calls $3.

Results:
Final pot: $17.1

Very new to NL. How'd I do post flop here. After the flop, I figure the button either has a Jack or a diamond. If the river bet had been any bigger, I would have folded. How'd I do? Any thoughts on betting if a river diamond hits?

quarkncover · #2 03-21-2006, 01:23 AM

Bet more on the flop, bet the turn.

Betting on a river diamond is really bad.

tannenj · #3 03-21-2006, 01:32 AM

got pt stats on him? assuming you dont,

preflop is fine.

flop is fine.

i agree with quark; i think you absolutely must bet the turn. if you get another call or he raises, you can confidently shut down because he's got a J or better. assuming you don't lead for some reason, your play is meh -- i think you are almost always beat here, so i usually fold. however, it's only $2 to win $9 (and hey, big implied odds if you hit your two-outer) so you don't have to be winning often for a call to be +EV.

similar situation on river since you're facing another tiny bet. board has paired now though (and you can no longer draw to your two outs) and i just don't see you beating much. as played up to this point, i fold on the river.

Colonel Kataffy · #4 03-21-2006, 01:43 AM

I didn't have any stats on him at the time. But now after 150 hands he's 50/7.69/.67. Oddly enough, his aggression factor on the river is 3.0.

At the time of the hand, he was yelling at others and being a jerk.

tannenj · #5 03-21-2006, 02:12 AM

i'm glad to hear he was yelling at others and being a jerk, because i advocate that kind of behavior during online poker sessions.

unfortunately, my respect for him ends there, since his stats indicate that he is a hee-hawing, leaf-eating toolhead.

given your read, i guess i like your river play slightly more ... i think you must bet the turn though, no question about it.