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Old 03-20-2006, 08:02 PM
Peter_rus Peter_rus is offline
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Surprisingly good 100/200 Party. All guys i want were there. Fucngr8t, Igot2outs, Nianmin etc. Unsure on all streets.

Don't have my PT on this computer so this hand is from memory.

I'm in SB with T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. 4 limpers to me and i complete, bb checks. 6 to the flop.

Flop is T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, Fucngr8t called, Igot2outs called and Hilo_Pro called as well. 4 people to turn.

Turn is J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check, checked to HiloPro who bets, i called, others fold

River is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I think for some seconds and bet out

Edit: HiloPro was on the button in this hand.
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Old 03-20-2006, 08:05 PM
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I like all streets before the river. Even the river I think can be fine, though my line would be to check and call.
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:23 PM
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I like all streets before the river. Even the river I think can be fine, though my line would be to check and call.

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Wow I think you need to bet this river.
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:35 PM
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nice hand. id bet the river here though. you are not going to get bluff raised and will likely get called by the multitude of worse hands that can be out ther and DEFINATELY wont get raised by any made flush worse than yours unless you've made some big folds recently.

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Old 03-20-2006, 10:01 PM
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Looks like a pretty standard flop check to me given the situation.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:02 PM
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well. it would depend on the player, but I think more hands that you beat will bet here when checked too than will call if you bet. In any event it close. With the J or Qs or better I like a bet more, with the 2-5s I like a check. In the middle is closer, and ultimately the most important factor is the bluffing vs calling propensity of the villain.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:03 PM
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Bet the river, rest looks good. Button will call with a lot of hands he won't bet.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:41 PM
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well. it would depend on the player, but I think more hands that you beat will bet here when checked too than will call if you bet.

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I think it's the opposite actually. I think a lot of hands will look you up and only broadway spades will bet for you, and just about everything else will take their showdown.
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Old 03-21-2006, 12:19 AM
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Against this line up, I would check-raise the flop every time. Whether to bet or check-call the river is the proverbial toin coss, IMO.

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Old 03-21-2006, 02:48 AM
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well. it would depend on the player, but I think more hands that you beat will bet here when checked too than will call if you bet.

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I think it's the opposite actually. I think a lot of hands will look you up and only broadway spades will bet for you, and just about everything else will take their showdown.

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enough of a difference to offset the two bets you pay when behind? or do you fold to a raise? getting bluff raised off the best hand here even 5% of the time is substantial and depending on the game you are in, possibly an ok estimate, on average (getting bluff raised on this board).

by no means am i certain my line is right, though it is the one I would take against many opponents.
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