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Old 03-20-2006, 10:10 AM
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Default Looking for the way to go: 6max limit or NL? Need advice.

I’m winning limit poker player at 1/2 FR and have been playing for 8 months.
But day by day it is harder and harder for me to find good FR tables, full ring limit game became much tougher compared to the last year.
Half a year ago my essential goal was beating full ring limit 3/6 game playing 3-4 tables. But now I don’t think it will be profitable in the long run especially after great expansion of short handed tables that took lots of fishes from full ring tables. The last bastion of low limit full ring game 2/4 was destroyed several weeks ago and now nothing will save fr limit game from death.
But I’m writing here not to make you sad about this but to get some advice, cause now it is obvious for me that it is time to expand my knowledge of poker by learning its other forms.
My aim – making decent profit from poker in the next 2 years.
I see two ways – short handed limit and NL.
Acquiring short handed limit will me much easier than NL (which is absolutely unknown land for me), but I see that even short handed limit became not so easy recent weeks, I even heard rumors from some solid mid-high limit players, that decent limit tables will die in 12-18 months and this process will start from microlimit. It is only rumors, but I don’t really like tendencies in limit holdem last year.
NL? May be. I am ready to loose some money before becoming good at it, but I am not confident it will be better than learning short limit, and hope that your thoughts and suggestions will help me to make my choice.
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Old 03-20-2006, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: Looking for the way to go: 6max limit or NL? Need advice.

As you even were able to say, the fish are enjoying a lot of the SH tables now. I think you will too. I started as a full ring player and now am only playing SH limit.
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:21 PM
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I keep seeing all these posts about great win rates and lower variance in NL, but every time I've tried it I end up going broke on a premium hand. I suppose it's a try it and see. If you like NL, go with it.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: Looking for the way to go: 6max limit or NL? Need advice.

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As you even were able to say, the fish are enjoying a lot of the SH tables now. I think you will too. I started as a full ring player and now am only playing SH limit.

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So what adjustments do you make (in terms of starting hands or otherwise), when you went to 6-handed?
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Old 03-20-2006, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Looking for the way to go: 6max limit or NL? Need advice.

You're right about full table games disappearing. But short handed is a far better game, if a little more difficult to master. It's full games that are the aberration, invented by B&M casinos to seat more players.

You could try both NL and limit short handed. The problem with NL is that fish bust out quicker - I don't know how many bad NL players you'll find at higher limits.

Limit is better for multi-tabling, which is why I think it'll never die out. Casinos & poker sites prefer limit - a fish who's busted out in two hands just handed over his potential rake to another player, instead of the house.As you already know, player points and bonuses are more attractive for limit players.

You know you've arrived as a poker player if you're more comfortable at short handed than full. And if you're going to be a pro, it would be impossible to move up in limits beyond 3/6 without mastering short handed anyway - full games at higher limits play like short handed.
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Old 03-20-2006, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Looking for the way to go: 6max limit or NL? Need advice.

When playing cash games, I have almost always played SH limit. When Party expanded, and added $2/4 6max, I think a lot of fishies moved up from .50/1 and $1/2.....thats been my game of choice b/c you can play more hands, there is more action, and it bleeds a fishy player in a slower manner than NL. My buddy list has grown tenfold. Since you are forced to play more hands (b/c the blinds come around so much quicker), and thus your opponents have to play more hands (and there are fewer of them) you can get a handle on your opponents game that much quicker, then use there tendencies to exploit them. Plus, as a previous poster pointed out, learning short handed play is the essence of poker and where the skills of hand reading and player profiling can shine, and also will help you progress if you desire to play the bigger games. Sitting around waiting for group 1&2 hands was never my thing. I don't have a tremendous amount of experience playing NL cash, but I have found 6 max limit games to suit my style and be prifitable.
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Old 03-20-2006, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Looking for the way to go: 6max limit or NL? Need advice.


NL is a very different game. If you are beating limit (something I never did, although I am a pro at NL) then modify what you know rather than try to learn something completely different.
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