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Old 03-20-2006, 04:50 AM
scrapperdog scrapperdog is offline
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Default Betting Problem related to psyc

I find myself doing this and am wondering if other people have this problem.

What it boils down to is losing value on hands by betting too much when I am sick of someones play. It could be a LAG, it could be someone raising my blind to much, it could be because I am pissed at the world at the moment. The bet makes me feel good but loses me money.

I am talking about hands when I have a very strong hand and some annoying LAG is coming at me. Instead of letting him do his thing I do a monster re-raise and take him out of the pot.

The overbet makes me feel good like I just told the guy to piss off. The reason for the overbet is only to make myself feel good and not because I think it is gonna get called. It is like I am trying to prove I am the Alpha Male instead of just worrying about the correct way to extract. Yes I realize that overbets can be a good way to extract but I am not talking about those situations.

I dont do this if I am in a good mood, feel in control, but do this when I am feeling frustrated with a persons play.

It is just a form of tilt? I have found myself doing traditional tilting less and less but this one specific area seems to be a real problem. I am not sure what my exact question is but if someone feels they can give me some insight on this or help in some manner please do so.
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: Betting Problem related to psyc

It sounds to me like you know exactly what the problem is. You should also know that you shouldn't be playing poker when in a bad mood.

Poker seems to serve as an ego's playground. You have to understand that it's not about being the big shot. It's not about flaunting how good you are. It's about winning. It's about getting max value. If you're not you're probably getting made fun of in the head of the player in the number 4 seat who's been quietly stacking chips all night. This makes everything you're doing even more wrong. Now you're not only playing bad poker, but the show of dominance is coming off as a complete joke to the only opinion at the table that matters.
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Old 03-21-2006, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: Betting Problem related to psyc

Sounds like transference to me, is there someone or something in life that represents overwhelming authority?

Maybe its something in the past, really, it could be a lot of things, but at the end of the day its hurting your bottom line and you need to explore the reasons why you feel this way against players who challenge your dominance at the table.
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Old 03-21-2006, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Betting Problem related to psyc

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What it boils down to is losing value on hands by betting too much when I am sick of someones play...I dont do this if I am in a good mood, feel in control, but do this when I am feeling frustrated with a persons play.

It is just a form of tilt? I have found myself doing traditional tilting less and less but this one specific area seems to be a real problem.

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Yup, sounds like a lessor version of full-blown angry chimp tilt. Basically, a milder version of angry tilting; perhaps more akin to "playing while more than mildly annoyed".

You are right about there being different types of tilt, though, such as "depression tilt" where you think negatively.

Different types of tilt make players behave differently. Anger could result in donking off your stack by playing hands too hard and bluffing too much; depression could make you fold too many good hands always thinking you're behind and missing good bluffing opportunities, etc.

Oh, and be cautious about your potential fragile ego (I'm not saying that you do). A fragile ego may be the primary reason for your competitiveness in any endeavor that interests you. You just have to keep it in check.
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Old 03-21-2006, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Betting Problem related to psyc

Thanks for the responses.

I want to kill LAGs. They annoy the piss out of me with their trying to run me off hands. Which is fine because ...

most of the lags I see at the levels I play are not very good. They know how to start but dont know how to stop. Unless a stupid play done by me forces them to stop.

I do have a fragile ego and this is part of my problem. It looks like I would rather inflate my ego for 15 seconds instead of making extra money. How pathetic is that?

I might take a trip to the library and look at the self-help books and see what they got. I need to get my ego and other personal problems out of my poker game.
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