First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

jmillerdls · #1 03-17-2006, 12:15 AM

Have a lot of hands on villain...
over 1600 hands, he 7/0/0.23

First time I ever considered folding KK preflop...I was definately tempted. Anyone else think that there is no other hand he does this with?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($50)
UTG ($14.75)
UTG+1 ($65.27)
UTG+2 ($83.32)
MP1 ($48.75)
MP2 ($62.85)
MP3 ($53.04)
CO ($47.20)
Button ($90.15)
SB ($49.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
6 folds, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $2.5, CO calls $46.70 (All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $44.20.

Flop: ($94.90) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($94.90) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($94.90) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $94.90

vulturesrow · #2 03-17-2006, 12:21 AM

Ive been tempted. Let me just say Im glad I never did, in spite of having the right read a few of those times.

neverforgetlol · #3 03-17-2006, 12:25 AM

i called an all-in pf tonight with QQ and ran into AA (villian mostly unknown here so i couldn't go on stats). it happens, just make a note for next time.

wait, is he open-limping with AA?

Yaboosh · #4 03-17-2006, 12:26 AM

AK seems a lot more likely than AA with this kind of stupid move.

jmillerdls · #5 03-17-2006, 01:00 AM

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i called an all-in pf tonight with QQ and ran into AA (villian mostly unknown here so i couldn't go on stats). it happens, just make a note for next time.

wait, is he open-limping with AA?

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I'm not sure your situation really compares...mine is completely read based. Nothing about my hand is about complaining when someone has AA when I have a big hand...its purely based on this guy never raising preflop, and only playing 7% of hands.

jmillerdls · #6 03-17-2006, 01:01 AM

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AK seems a lot more likely than AA with this kind of stupid move.

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Really? Against a guy who has not raised preflop in over 1500 hands? I just can't imagine a guy who is willing to only play 7% of hands is willing to recklessly throw all his chips into the middle preflop with anything other than AA...

Rockatansky · #7 03-17-2006, 01:02 AM

We almost went an entire day without a "Should I Fold KK Preflop?" thread. You posted this just in time.

PoBoy321 · #8 03-17-2006, 01:04 AM

Wow, 1600 hands, 7/0/.23? That IS crazy tight. The only thing is, do you have a read of HOW he plays the few hands he does play?

vulturesrow · #9 03-17-2006, 01:07 AM

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Wow, 1600 hands, 7/0/.23? That IS crazy tight. The only thing is, do you have a read of HOW he plays the few hands he does play?

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There was a guy from limit days who I had a substantial amount of hands, stats: 10/0/0. If that guy ever raised preflop Id probably crap pants, and cry for mommy, and wonder how the [censored] he got 3 aces in his hand preflop.

jmillerdls · #10 03-17-2006, 01:08 AM

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Wow, 1600 hands, 7/0/.23? That IS crazy tight. The only thing is, do you have a read of HOW he plays the few hands he does play?

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No read at all, other than he has shown 0 aggression ever...so hard for me not to put aggression squarely on the nuts. But, we are not allowed to fold KK preflop on this forum.