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03-16-2006, 12:15 AM
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Fold Q,Q here? I never folded Q,Q in my life!
This is a 180 person sng. There were approximately 30 people left and top 18 paid. I was in 6th place at the time. The utg raiser in this hand had shown himself to be a donk, but I did not have any notes on the mp pusher. A call/push and I win and I am on top and in good position. A call/push and I loose and I am likely ootm. What would you have done?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx UTG+1 (t3600) MP1 (t9745) MP2 (t4820) CO (t8565) Button (t7610) SB (t15185) Hero (t13165) UTG (t12720) Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG+1 raises to t1600 MP1 raises to t9720 and is essentially all in HERO ? 
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#5
03-16-2006, 12:28 AM
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Re: Fold Q,Q here? I never folded Q,Q in my life!
I need reads to fold this. With no reads and the first raiser being a donk my chips are in the middle.
[ QUOTE ] A call/push and I win and I am on top and in good position. A call/push and I loose and I am likely ootm. [/ QUOTE ] You can't let this affect your decision here. Try and make the right/best decision regardless of how it affects you getting in or out of the money.
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#7
03-16-2006, 12:30 AM
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Re: Fold Q,Q here? I never folded Q,Q in my life!
can QQ be folded preflop - Yes
in this situation - No why would MP overbet so much with a big stack and KK or AA ???
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#8
03-16-2006, 12:58 AM
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Re: Fold Q,Q here? I never folded Q,Q in my life!
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can QQ be folded preflop - Yes in this situation - No why would MP overbet so much with a big stack and KK or AA ??? [/ QUOTE ] Because he has UTG+1 committed to the hand and doesn't want a multi way pot. If I'm MP I'm pushing AA and KK here.
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#9
03-16-2006, 12:59 AM
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Re: Fold Q,Q here? I never folded Q,Q in my life!
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[ QUOTE ] can QQ be folded preflop - Yes in this situation - No why would MP overbet so much with a big stack and KK or AA ??? [/ QUOTE ] Because he has UTG+1 committed to the hand and doesn't want a multi way pot. If I'm MP I'm pushing AA and KK here. [/ QUOTE ] I understand your point but why not just raise to 4K?
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#10
03-16-2006, 01:00 AM
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Re: Fold Q,Q here? I never folded Q,Q in my life!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] can QQ be folded preflop - Yes in this situation - No why would MP overbet so much with a big stack and KK or AA ??? [/ QUOTE ] Because he has UTG+1 committed to the hand and doesn't want a multi way pot. If I'm MP I'm pushing AA and KK here. [/ QUOTE ] I understand your point but why not just raise to 4K? [/ QUOTE ]
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