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Old 03-14-2006, 10:57 PM
2eazy 2eazy is offline
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Default top pair plus flush draw

i have 1000$ and villain cover, dont have a read on him he just came in the game

6 max game, 2 limpers i limp on the button with k [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] sb calls so does the bb

flop k [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
bb checks, i raise 50 he re raises to 150 i call

turn j [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
bb bets 250 i call

river 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
bb goes all in, i fold

I was thinking i shoulda pushed the flop, i really though he was strong 2 pairs or sets, what are my options i didnt wanna push the flop as a dog,
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Old 03-14-2006, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: top pair plus flush draw

Just push the flop. If you're too scared, you could check-call the flop. Bet-call is the worst option. You shouldn't be too scared though if you're rolled for the game. Just push flop.
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Old 03-14-2006, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: top pair plus flush draw

i dont think i have any fold equity here, is it a +ev if i push here wont he have half the time a set and half the time 2 pairs which i am 50 50
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Old 03-14-2006, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: top pair plus flush draw

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Just push the flop. If you're too scared, you could check-call the flop. Bet-call is the worst option. You shouldn't be too scared though if you're rolled for the game. Just push flop.

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i definitely think you are wrong. You have position btw, dont know if you realized that. when he checks to you, betting is fine, and then once he raises, calling is also fine.
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Old 03-15-2006, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: top pair plus flush draw

I agree with prevacicator, call after raise, he could have you beat. On the turn he bets that much I think he has a hand, because that would be pretty gutsy to bet that much with say A5 suited. Fold turn.
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Old 03-15-2006, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: top pair plus flush draw

There's nothing particularly wrong with the way you played it.

Pushing the flop is also fine. Sometimes he's on a diamond draw too and that's a beautiful thing when the money gets in.
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Old 03-15-2006, 12:55 AM
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If you are looking for ANY kind of aggro image you had better be reraising this flop to 550 or so/ pushing. If you want the loose/ pvssy image, then please, play it the way you did. Just push the damn flop he should have KQ/KJ and he should fold, and if he's got you outkicked, then it's basically a race.

The only way you can justify a fold is if you are 100% sure he's got a set. How does he have two pair on a board of K 7 4? Is his ROH PF that bad?
I'm all in 11 times out of 10.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: top pair plus flush draw

Read the post jackass opponent is the big blind.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:05 AM
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Sorry, jackass, I NEVER limp with K9 suited, ever.
However, I still push, maybe just 10 times out of 10 instead of 11 out of 10.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: top pair plus flush draw

i dont see how limping with k 9 in position is a bad play in a short handed game
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