Blind Quiz - What do you do in these situations?

POKhER · #1 03-12-2006, 12:57 PM

if everyone can post blind, then we can discuss our answers. I'm pretty crap from BB facing raises with suited junk and other marginal hands, same on SB when limped vs few people. Here are some i walked into today.

Assume a loose table with a few aggressives, so some 70/6/1.3s and other 35/12/2's and other 70/4/.3's - UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED 

yeah i know reads would change things but if you want to state what you'd do if BB was loose, if BB was tight, or button had high Steal % Etc etc then thats even better. I dont have time to go through PT hunting for everyones stats.

Hand 1 - Q7o on BB facing a steal

Button is 30% AttToSteal & 22/16/4.5 @ 340.
SB is 62/8/1.34 @ 66 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero?

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Hand 2 - 44 facing 2 raises we're stuck in middle

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls $3.74 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls, Hero ???? 1 fold, UTG raises, Button calls, Hero(if we get here)?

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Hand 3

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, 1 folds, Hero?

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Hand 4

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero?

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Hand 5

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP raises, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero ....

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Hand 6
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, MP (poster) checks, 2 folds, Hero ...

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Hand 7

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, Hero ......

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Hand 8

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero?

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Hand 9

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button calls, SB raises, hero?

Ugge · #2 03-12-2006, 01:13 PM

Please bash my answers and tell me why they suck... I suck.

1. Fold, I'd call with Q8 though as he could very well be stealing. I dont take into account that SB called and I dont know if that is good or bad :S

2. I would Fold.

3. I see this as a clear fold.

4. Clear fold assuming UTG is a weak and passive player preflop.

5. Fold.

6. Call.

7. I raise here.

8. Instafold.

9. Instafold.

Barrin6 · #3 03-12-2006, 01:37 PM

#1 Call
#2 WTF is happening here?
#3 fold, no suited, ugly hand
#4 Fold, if it was suited I would 3 bet
#5 Call
#6 fold
#7 limp, if it was ace/5 suited or higher I would raise
#8 this one is hard.. I would call
#9 Fold

Guruman · #4 03-12-2006, 01:43 PM

--preface:I suck at blind steal situations. wait, I suck at poker!---

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Hand 1 - Q7o on BB facing a steal

Button is 30% AttToSteal & 22/16/4.5 @ 340.
SB is 62/8/1.34 @ 66 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, 7.
3 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero?

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I'll dump that because a lot of a button stealing range is Ax,Kx, and better Qx than mine. I'd call with a T kicker or a suited 9.

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Hand 2 - 44 facing 2 raises we're stuck in middle

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, 4.
UTG calls, MP calls $3.74 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls, Hero ???? 1 fold, UTG raises, Button calls, Hero(if we get here)?

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this one probably should be a dump pf to the first bet since we'll not win UI very often, we'll never win without showing down, and we'll have to make up quite a lot when we connect. If we call, then we have to dodge the overcards of the first limper, the allin raiser, the button, and likely from the bb as well.

We may be able to make up the ground since our set will look crazy and people will be unwilling to fold with someone all in though, but that's asking quite a lot.

I'll call this with 77+ since I have a better shot at holding up UI, hitting safe boards, and having a set hold up.

also, why was utg able to limp-reraise if mp couldnt get a full raise in? I thought it didn't work that way, but I'm obviously mistaken.

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Hand 3

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K, 5.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 folds, Hero?

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this one depends entirely on who the hell mp is. if he's prone to spewing with weak pairs then we can probably call this and flop a king. If he's playing fit or fold and the bb is playing too tight then we can raise it up and fire the flop.

without one of those specific situations this looks like a dump to me, but mainly because limpers tend to have weak aces.

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Hand 4

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K, J.
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero?

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I'll call this and donk a lot of safe [read non-ace and semi-non broadway] flops if utg is remotely taggish. I'll also checkraise a lot of my split pairs and straight draws. this could get me threebet sometimes when I'm dominated, but I'm ok with that because I can let it go. While its true that this hand is often dominated by an UTG raise, its also easier to play on certain flops because of how narrow utg's range is. (Also, if utg's range isnt narrow, than this is an autocall regardless-with the intent of showing down a pair)

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Hand 5

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 6 suited.
UTG calls, MP raises, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero ....

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I'll call any two suited getting 6-1. BB will have to cooperate for that to happen, but that's likely to be the case. at 6-1 we start to get odds to hit a pair or a draw, and we can do all kinds of cool stuff on the flop when we connect or semiconnect since we know where the bet will come from. Without the early limper in the hand I dump this one.

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Hand 6
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 9 suited. MP posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, MP (poster) checks, 2 folds, Hero ...

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same answer as above, though this one could get a little more tricky since we don't know where action will come from and our pairs will be weaker. I think this one is worth seeing a flop though.

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Hand 7

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 2 suited.
2 folds, CO calls, Hero ......

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I've been folding this lately, but mainly because I've been playing fit or fold with it a lot. I dont know how to bluff in this situation very well, and we'll have to bluff some to make calling this correct.

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Hand 8

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K, 6.
UTG raises, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero?

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I'll dump this one. dominated, only one way to hit a flop, never closing the action, etc.

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Hand 9

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 4.
2 folds, Button calls, SB raises, hero?

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I fold this, but mainly because sb probably doesnt want me to. sb raises in this situation tend to be for value, and while I probably have two live cards I can't always connect and be good, and there arent as many ways I can hit.

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now off to read everyone else's posts! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

chumsferd · #5 03-12-2006, 01:51 PM

1. fold
2. I wouldn't call the first time simply because you are afraid of exactly what happened, that UTG re-raises behind you.
3. fold
4. cop out answer but it depends on the read. If I enter the pot I'm raising to drive out BB
5. fold
6. fold
7. raise
8. fold
9. fold

DougG · #6 03-12-2006, 02:42 PM

Hand 1 - Q7o- fold
Hand 2 - 44 - call/call; c/f flop unless I see a set
Hand 3 - K5o - fold unless MP and BB are really LP then call
Hand 4 - KJo - right on the margin for me; if MP is passive preflop, fold; if he's at all ag preflop, raise; I don't think you want to call here
Hand 5 - J6s - easy fold
Hand 6 - 39s - fold; my "call with any 2-suited from SB" stats are bad and I'm moving away from it, esp with only 2 opponents
Hand 7 - A2s - raise if CO is really LP (which he probably is if he's limping from CO); fold if he's tight
Hand 8 - K6o - fold
Hand 9 - 54o - easy fold

edit: fixed hand 3/4 confusion

Kwaz · #7 03-12-2006, 02:53 PM

1.F
2.F - with reduced implied and costing an extra 2.75.
3.F
4.C/R - villian dependant
5.C
6.F
7.R
8.F
9.F

DaSpade · #8 03-12-2006, 03:44 PM

Hand1: fold - I might complete it if it is HU + Btn plays bad post flop or gives up easily

Hand2: easy call

Hand3: fold

Hand4: I raise +70% of time may be - it mostly depends on the UTG - playing OOP I would like to keep the initiative

Hand5: easy call

Hand6: call - keeping in mind the 1-2 blind structure

Hand7: Raise

Hand8: fold - I might call if it is a btn's raise >30% atsb

Hand9: call

Guruman · #9 03-12-2006, 04:00 PM

can someone advocating the A2s raise give me a range for the limper that we're isolating? I just seem to run into a lot of aces that dominate me in that spot.

thanks!

counterspell · #10 03-12-2006, 04:05 PM

fold
call call
fold
fold
call
call
raise
fold
fold

i show a strong preference for suited hands in multiway pots, and a strong aversion to offsuit k-rag type hands.