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Old 03-10-2006, 01:03 AM
bigredlemon bigredlemon is offline
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Default Playing a dead hand against dangerous boards

7 Card Stud High ($3/$6), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (1.17 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes

4th Street - (4.17 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.58 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___bets (all-in)
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (9.00 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___all-in
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

River - (11.00 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___all-in
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___checks___folds
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

Total pot: (12.00 BB)
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Old 03-10-2006, 09:25 AM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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Default Re: Playing a dead hand against dangerous boards

Ick. 3rd is ok esp. with this ante structure. 4th is cool. 5th is where I find a fold most likely (did seat one call all in or make a partial raise?). Basically, he prob doesn't think your folding and could easily have a flush that he's checkraising with. And your hand is dead. If you get to 6th, fold there b/c now your beaten by (most likely) a flush or trips or two pair. Let it go.

Jeff
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:29 AM
Elmo Jones Elmo Jones is offline
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Default Re: Playing a dead hand against dangerous boards

You should have folded on 5th street but you know that. You realized your cards were dead.

I am not a real well booked player but I have played a long time. FWIW something I tell myself to keep me for becoming married to my cards is that the average winning hand in 7-stud is trip 9s ( i don't know if it is or not...I think I read that in one of my books. Nonetheless I tell myself this).

I have lost more money with 2 dead pair then probably any hand. I don't know if this helps or not but maybe if you think of average winning hands it will help you keep in perspective the value of a dead premium pair. Especially when you aren't heads up.

Take care and have a nice weekend.

Good Luck.
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