200NL two tough spots

Maddie84 · #1 11-09-2007, 07:46 PM

Villain is 33/17 over ~200 hands

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $85.60
Maddie84: $341.58
CO: $228.68
Button: $141.56
SB: $215.16
BB: $311.42

Pre-flop: (6 players) Maddie84 is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Maddie84 raises to $7, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($21, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $11, Maddie84 raises to $22, SB folds, BB raises to $54, Maddie84 ????

Villain is 38/3 over ~ 100 hands

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $210.50
Maddie84: $342.07
CO: $27.00
Button: $196.00
SB: $148.10
BB: $245.86

Pre-flop: (6 players) Maddie84 is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Maddie84 raises to $10, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($21, 2 players)
BB checks, Maddie84 bets $10, BB raises all-in $237.86, Maddie84 ?????

In pot one are we really happy with our hand and wanting to call ~$100 on turn if we don't improve.

Also pot two do we need to call here as we've only put in $20???

Mary59 · #2 11-09-2007, 07:50 PM

hand 1) I think make a 3/4 pot bet as your raise, fold to the flop 3 bet.

hand 2) This is very read dependent but I fold with no reads

thac · #3 11-09-2007, 07:50 PM

Hand 1 - Make a real raise, don't minraise. As played, It's probably a fold, he looks pretty strong and we're not gonna like very many turn cards.

Hand 2 - I'd probably bet 17 on the flop. As played, it pretty much depends on his AF, but usually these big shoves from bad players seem like 98 or A8 a lot of the time. I really don't mind a fold, but I don't really mind a call some of the time either.

Dire · #4 11-09-2007, 07:53 PM

reads/game flow/etc are how these decisions are decided. You have 100+ hands on both these guys who are both 30+ VPIP so you've seen them play postflop 30+ times, nearly 70 times on the first guy. Should give you something to work with. I mean especially in the second hand, for example, if you've seen him do that more than once or twice in the past 100 hands then it's pretty much a snap call. If you haven't seen him ever do that in 100 hands then you can probably snap fold.

Maddie84 · #5 11-09-2007, 07:56 PM

pot 1 i know i should have raised more i normally make it ~$36, don't know why I just min raised...

pot 2 was the first time i had seen him push, just looks like a two pair