$6.50 - AKs nfd on flop against 2 AIs

lemmoh · #1 11-08-2007, 06:17 AM

Hello again,

what to do here? Is this a call with 2 overs / NFD and this odds? Both unknows.
Dont think that one of em has an 8, so i put them both on small/mid pairs 66-JJ or a weaker FD. Is the pfr ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button (t1725)
SB (t1405)
BB (t1175)
UTG (t1075)
Hero (t1490)
MP2 (t410)
CO (t6220)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, Hero raises to t250, 2 folds, Button calls t250, SB calls t225, 1 fold, UTG calls t200.

Flop: (t1050) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets t1155 (All-In), UTG calls t825 (All-In), Hero?

thx for your opinions!

AMT · #2 11-08-2007, 06:24 AM

yes, at this point im calling.

RexWoo · #3 11-08-2007, 07:11 AM

AMT ?

I can't find a call here. You can't discount a 8 in UTG's range and if somebody else has a flush drawn you only have 7 outs to the nut flush.

sence25 · #4 11-08-2007, 07:13 AM

I don't see UTG limpcalling an 8 often here.
It's a call for me too with those odds.

GAaak001 · #5 11-08-2007, 07:44 AM

PFR is fine.

I think the small blind might have 99-JJ here and is trying to take down the post after the flop.

I wouldnt be surprised to see button with something similar.

I dont think you should be worried about people on a flush draw here. Maybe they both have a club.

55 isn't very likely and I don't think anyone has an 8 there.

So I think you have about 11-12 (outs so its a call given the nice pot odds).

lemmoh · #6 11-08-2007, 12:09 PM

Some more thoughts on this one?

Takeover_inc · #7 11-08-2007, 12:17 PM

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I don't see UTG limpcalling an 8 often here.

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it is a 6.50. Lots of random hands get limped/called by weak players, like 6-8s+

Someone will usually have an 8 and that makes your draw not so bueno. If you fold you still have plenty of chips to work with. Calling in this spot is too much risk for me in a 6.50 minus a read.