Range for stop n go? 5r

[markbris]

No reads on villain really. I was trying to stove this and had trouble coming up with a range here. I would think he is pushing pairs like 77+,AK,AQ pf but who knows. What kinda range you think?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t12664)
UTG+1 (t2410)
MP1 (t18126)
Hero (t10245)
MP3 (t15780)
CO (t12395)
Button (t24801)
SB (t1939)
BB (t8601)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t1400) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1339 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

[sharkscopeaholic]

I doubt hes pushing with an overpair unless hes got TT or JJ.
If he just has paired the board then you got about 33% and the odds are 14-13. These arent good odds for a call.
If hes stop n going with atc then:
Board: Kh 6s 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.414% 52.37% 01.05% 6725088 134451.00 { QJs }
Hand 1: 46.586% 45.54% 01.05% 5848290 134451.00 { random }

So you beat a bluff only and just by a small margin.

I lean to a fold here. You have plenty of chips left.

I prbly dont raise preflop here either since the blinds dont really help you if it folds around and it sucks building a big pot with a weak easily dominated hand.

[markbris]

odds are like 2-1 on the call so 33% would be ok.

[sharkscopeaholic]

oh crap you're right. I still think its a fold here though. You're most likely going to need to improve. I would save the 10% of my stack.

[BurnleyMik]

I know you are getting 2-1, but what hands are you ahead of? Any pair, Ace high, King high are all beating your hand right now. All you are ahead of is a terrible bluff. 2-1 is nowhere near good enough odds to call here, I personally think this is a fold.

[markbris]

Also sharkscope, the board is 869 not K89. secondly, it doesnt matter how much of my stack it is, if its +EV im taking it so i dont really care about anything else or than whether its +EV or not. Same for Burnley, thats fine if Im behind nearly all the time as long as the pot is offering me odds to chase.

[timmay28]

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odds are like 2-1 on the call so 33% would be ok.

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Hmm, I've always thought that you don't call in a spot like this unless the pot is laying bigger odds than the odds of hitting your hand. Assuming you have 10 outs which = 3.6-1 vs 2-1 in the pot. What am I missing here?

[markbris]

My thinking there is 66%:33% Im a 2:1 dog against his range. So as long as Im getting 2:1 or better the call is fine. Correct me someoene if Im wrong.

[SengioKang]

if you have 10 outs the call is fine...

alot of times i've seen this be top 2 pair with 89...

he might even have 78... in which case your 10 and overs are still golden given the odds

[BlueEcho]

Mark,

Your call is correct using 10 outs which gives you 1.6-1 or 38%.

Timmay- you are confusing two cards to come which is 1.6-1 with one card to come being 3.6-1.