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Old 11-06-2007, 05:07 AM
Specialwon Specialwon is offline
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Default NL50: 15 outer on paired board makes weak straight, can I fold here?

Less than 20 hands on villain who seemed somewhat loose passive. Not too many hands would make him jump up like that on the river I'm thinking.

Comments on other streets appreciated too.

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Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $51.95
UTG+1: $18.65
UTG+2: $28.60
MP1: $47.25
MP2: $81.00
MP3: $50.50
CO: $5.00
Button: $31.80
Hero: $48.25
BB: $48.50

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3, folds, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, Hero calls, BB (poster) checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.5</font>, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.5, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 bets $4.5</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($24, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 is all-in $21.1</font>, MP2 folds, Hero would like to fold.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:16 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: NL50: 15 outer on paired board makes weak straight, can I fold here?

The first 3 streets look ok.

I'd fold river. That's not really a good river. A good river would have been a T, or a low heart (and straight flush obv).
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:54 AM
SemiteStoned SemiteStoned is offline
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Default Re: NL50: 15 outer on paired board makes weak straight, can I fold here?

I fold the river.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:08 PM
johnnydrama johnnydrama is offline
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Default Re: NL50: 15 outer on paired board makes weak straight, can I fold here?

Interesting hand to learn from for me as well. Why do you find a fold here Sabr? Really putting him on a 9 on the flop? Seems badly played flop one his part if that is what we put him on with two to act behind him on a drawy board. A,Q? Again seems oddly played.

Just wondering what range you put him on here that you find a fold. I think maybe since Hero showed weakness on turn and river with checks there has to be a chance of a bluff here, no? Split pot?

Thanks
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:00 PM
King Spew King Spew is offline
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Default Re: NL50: 15 outer on paired board makes weak straight, can I fold here?

jdrama...

there is still a third in the pot that has been smooth calling all along. Multiway, limped pot.... villains can hold anything.

My go-to theorum here is that on the $50 tables with multiway river...no matter how much "weakness" is out there.... anything over $15 is not a bluff.

His river AI asks the rivered str8s to call. Rivers like boats...boats like rivers. LOL.
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