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Old 11-05-2007, 11:21 PM
DaHorseShu DaHorseShu is offline
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Default My first post would like to know your thoughts

okerStars Game #13066957794: Tournament #66049203, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/11/05 - 21:56:36 (ET)
Table '66049203 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: (11720 in chips)
Seat 2: (18495 in chips)
Seat 3: Villian (16911 in chips)
Seat 4: (7030 in chips)
Seat 5: (5066 in chips)
Seat 6: (3060 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (5150 in chips)
Seat 8: (8335 in chips)
Seat 9: (18508 in chips)
posts the ante 25
: posts the ante 25
: posts the ante 25
: posts the ante 25
: posts the ante 25
: posts the ante 25
: posts the ante 25
: posts the ante 25
: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 200
posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [9h AH
: folds
: folds
: folds
Villian: calls 400
folds
: folds
: folds
Hero: raises 3600 to 4000
: folds
Villian: calls 3600
*** FLOP *** [Qc Qs 3c]
Hero: bets 1125 and is all-in
Villian: calls 1125
*** TURN *** [Qc Qs 3c] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [Qc Qs 3c 8h] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [9h Ah] (a pair of Queens)
Villian: shows [2c 2d] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
Villian collected 10875 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10875 | Rake 0
Board [Qc Qs 3c 8h Ks]
I just wanted to steal, most of the time I am not called I just get put all in, am I correct in thinking he made a bad call pre flop?

thank you, this is my first post, so any suggestions or comments will be appreacated

thank you
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:41 AM
Jetpilot86 Jetpilot86 is offline
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Default Re: My first post would like to know your thoughts

Welcome,

First use the hand converters.

Second, I think if you were gonna bet that much you might as well have gone all in preflop and removed the mystery.

Yes, his call is marginal, he's a true coin flip to you and any other hand he calls, or worse for him. The key question is whether you figured the Villan would call or fold to your All-in, and effectively with your raise you are all-in, if you think he calls it's all in or fold, if you think he'll fold I'd raise less.

Personally I raise normally, and work from there. As I said, with your raise, you've essentially said you're going all in on the flop, when he calls, he's looking at paying the extra 1125 no matter what on pot odds alone.

hth
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:26 AM
SuperUberBob SuperUberBob is offline
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Default Re: My first post would like to know your thoughts

Raised too much. If you're going to go-and-go, raise to 1600 and then open shove any flop. Your flop bet would then be a pot sized bet and it'd be hard for villain to call without a queen. With the monster raise pre and the small remainder all-in on the flop, villain normally has the pot odds to call.

Personally, I either shove pre or just complete.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:35 AM
sapsuckah sapsuckah is offline
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Default Re: My first post would like to know your thoughts

You have 13 BBs, an OK hand, and a single limper -- this is an excellent spot to steal-raise if this guy has shown any tendency at all to limp a lot and limp/fold to raises.

But raising anything other than all-in here is a huge mistake.

Oh, and welcome to 2+2... please use a hand converter next time.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:53 PM
DaHorseShu DaHorseShu is offline
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Default Re: My first post would like to know your thoughts

Where can I get this hand convert?
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:08 PM
sapsuckah sapsuckah is offline
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Default Re: My first post would like to know your thoughts

See the "MTT Frequently Asked Questions v1.5 (READ BEFORE POSTING!)" at the top of the forum for one... but I use the one here.

Make sure you select "2+2" from the drop-down box.
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