Straight on river

betgo · #1 11-05-2007, 09:24 PM

$50 MTT
Comments on earlier streets? What do I do now?
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: t1500
UTG+1: t1500
CO: t1500
Button: t1500
SB: t1500
BB: t1500

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls t20 (pot was t30), 3 folds, SB calls t10 (pot was t50), BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t60, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t40, SB calls t40 (pot was t100), BB folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t140, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t140, 2 players)
SB bets t100, Hero ???

Bond18 · #2 11-05-2007, 09:27 PM

Make it 350-400. Given stacks i think i fold pre.

Edit: Thought it was full ring. I raise pre instead.

hamnegger · #3 11-05-2007, 09:28 PM

rai to 400ish

betgo · #4 11-05-2007, 09:43 PM

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Make it 350-400. Given stacks i think i fold pre.

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You are really into playing position. I don't think I could fold this in a 6-max. Plus this hand plays well with deep money.

Sherman · #5 11-05-2007, 09:45 PM

I might just shove it in. Most villain's will have a real hard time folding a 7 and/or a bare 9. If he has the bare T, he shouldn't really call any raise anyway.

And if he has the full-house, he is going to re-raise and you'll probably have to call anyway.

Sherman

Sherman · #6 11-05-2007, 09:49 PM

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Make it 350-400. Given stacks i think i fold pre.

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You are really into playing position. I don't think I could fold this in a 6-max. Plus this hand plays well with deep money.

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We aren't that deep if we make a raise PF. Bond is saying that in 6-max he'd rather raise or fold PF. And given that raising isn't so great b/c of our stack size, he'd rather fold.

He's saying this: fold > raise > limp (although I think he'd agree that they are all pretty close and none are really wrong).

Now if he did have better position (CO or button) he'd be raising I'm sure.

Sherman

Jetpilot86 · #7 11-05-2007, 09:51 PM

Pot raise to Shove, hope he didn't hit the boat as you are committed here anyway....

betgo · #8 11-05-2007, 09:55 PM

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Make it 350-400. Given stacks i think i fold pre.

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You are really into playing position. I don't think I could fold this in a 6-max. Plus this hand plays well with deep money.

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We aren't that deep if we make a raise PF. Bond is saying that in 6-max he'd rather raise or fold PF. And given that raising isn't so great b/c of our stack size, he'd rather fold.

He's saying this: fold > raise > limp (although I think he'd agree that they are all pretty close and none are really wrong).

Now if he did have better position (CO or button) he'd be raising I'm sure.

Sherman

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Bond says fold preflop. I think this is raise or limp. I like limp OOP for my style, and I feel I can follow it up well.

Bond18 · #9 11-05-2007, 10:48 PM

Sorry betgo, didn't see this was 6 max. Raise is fine pre.

BarryLyndon · #10 11-05-2007, 11:00 PM

I don't think there are strong counterarguments at 10/20 against limp / fold preflop. Raising preflop is OK for some styles, I prefer limp because I don't want to get involved in a big pot with this hand this early.

Sherman - I see your point about the shove, but I think at 10/20, you are not going to get called enough to profit. If it were 20/40 or 25/50, an overbet of this size would be much better.

Barry