KK (6.50)

[DetroitHustle]

I lose a lot of value by shoving preflop right?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1420)
CO (t2200)
Button (t1965)
SB (t1920)
Hero (t1090)
UTG (t2920)
UTG+1 (t1260)
MP1 (t725)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t150, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, UTG calls t350, SB folds.

Flop: (t1150) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t590 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls t590.

Turn: (t2330) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t2330) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2330

[mattiesmat]

Well it depends on what kind of players are at your table.
To me this looks a lot scarier than a push, but you might get called lighter by loose donks.

[ADLinden]

just shove preflop, especially after the limper

[mattiesmat]

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just shove preflop, especially after the limper

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Why?
What if those 2 limpers are donks, who will call a raise, but fold to a push.
I think if that's the case, then raising is fine.
If you think they call a shove, then shove.

[DetroitHustle]

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just shove preflop, especially after the limper

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Meh 99-QQ i would instashove but utg limper was loose calling station but i feared he would fold to a shove pre.

[diditmyway]

bet t500 over a limper at 75/150 screams strong hand, I just push pre. if he wanna call another 350 he probably call the rest as well.

[mattiesmat]

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bet t500 over a limper at 75/150 screams strong hand, I just push pre. if he wanna call another 350 he probably call the rest as well.

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I agree with this logic, but this is not always the case for not thinking $6.5y donks.

[DetroitHustle]

I dont think he felt it was strength because he called with 44. Bleh gg me.

[semu]

You made the right move then by not shoving preflop. He called you with worst hand all the way. But if you raise t350 then you prolly will get a call when you shove. I think you played it just fine!

[burns-1986]

People love to limp then call a shove with small pairs and Ax, i shove this all day and expect to get called a decent amount of the time