NL50: 99, flopped OESD, check my flop play please

ranka · #1 10-31-2007, 12:37 PM

Hello everyone!

I am analyzing my game and noticed this hand. It was played some time ago but this hand is trouble hand for me. If I hit some kind of draw - OESD or FD with my PP then I don't know what todo. Please, check my flop play and tell me what I did wrong. Also all comments on other streets are welcome.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Reads:
Villain is UTG: 30/4.4/1.4 - 249 hands

Stacks:
UTG ($75.80)
UTG+1 ($36.45)
MP1 ($29.50)
MP2 ($14.35)
CO ($34.10)
Button ($99.95)
Hero ($49.50)
BB ($53.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold.
Called preflop raise because his raising range is very narrow and I am out of position.

Flop: ($2.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $4, UTG raises to $11.5, Hero calls $7.50.
I planned to check-raise the villain to get more FE. Plan was succesful but villain 3bets me and after 3bet, I didn't know what todo - I just called. What would be correct play? Just check/call instead check-raise?

Turn: ($25.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50.
Missed straight and decided C/F. But his bet was so small and he gave me odds to call.

River: ($26.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $37.5, Hero folds.
Missed again. C/F

Final Pot: $26.50

semu · #2 10-31-2007, 12:50 PM

I would have check/raised on the flop. Then if he called I'd C/F the turn. If I don't hit my straight. I think I would have folded on the flop. Check/raise is something that shows a lot of power, to raise it you must have a monster. You aren't really sure that your straight is good if you make it.

CallMeJohn · #3 10-31-2007, 01:00 PM

I think it is a good line against a normal player. You just picked a bad villain to try it on. i don't think he is folding.

He minraised preflop, then donked flop and turn and overbet river. He likes his hand and he is trying to build a pot. Just call and when you hit, he will pay off.

RapidEvolution · #4 10-31-2007, 01:11 PM

Villain's turn bet gives you odds to hit cards in an UNO deck. I would't be surprised if he had AhKh or AhQh. The overbet on river looks odd and your 9's might be good here. However, I don't think they're good often enough to call.

BTW, does a hand that beats us here make this magnificently small turn bet? If I'm here with JJ.TT, I bet for value here. With an overpair, I'm not sure how I'd handle it, but certainly not with this .50 bet.

Johnes Benjamin · #5 10-31-2007, 01:13 PM

I would 3bet this preflop to a minbet.

If you thought his raising range is too narrow to raise 99, WTF are you doing c/ring the flop? I would lead and see where I was. c/c is also better than c/r IMO, but if you hit your str8 it is incredibly transparent. furthermore, if you hit your set your action will be killed be easy str8, plus possibility of hearts.
I think i like b/c (reasonable raise) best, especially if you have raised pre

turn is obvious call getting 60:1!

river is clear c/f.

Johnes Benjamin · #6 10-31-2007, 01:20 PM

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BTW, does a hand that beats us here make this magnificently small turn bet? If I'm here with JJ.TT, I bet for value here. With an overpair, I'm not sure how I'd handle it, but certainly not with this .50 bet.

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I totally agree but then again I would not make this bet with any holding.
We are probably good on river pretty often but its not a call I would make, maybe it should be

ranka · #7 10-31-2007, 02:51 PM

100% ageed with Johnes Benjamin

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If you thought his raising range is too narrow to raise 99, WTF are you doing c/ring the flop?

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Yeah, WTF I did!? Very good point and don't know how I missed it.

Thank you guys.

threads13 · #8 11-01-2007, 03:41 PM

A preflop 3-bet turns your hand into a bluff.

A flop c/r only is good against AK/AQ and they might call so your semi-bluff doesn't have much fold equity. I don't think you can call the flop.