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Old 03-05-2006, 09:15 PM
Hielko Hielko is offline
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Default 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

What do you think of the play below? +EV or not? And what after getting reraised on the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB
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Old 03-05-2006, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

any reads on villain? i've played this the same way; after the reraise on the turn i just call down also. Sometimes you'll see an overplayed ten this way, and sometimes you're beat [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 03-05-2006, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

Oh sorry; Villan was just new at the table, haven't seen special in those first 5 hands orso.
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Old 03-05-2006, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

no, no problem, everyone always says that so i figured i would too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

sometimes if you can say "villain is really tight, a moron lag, etc" or if you have any pokertracker stats it might make the difference between a raise and a call down--not necessarily in this hand but in general.

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Old 03-05-2006, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

I'd cap the turn. Even if you are behind you should have 6 outs for the win (2 aces and 4 fives)...
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Old 03-05-2006, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

I love it.
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Old 03-05-2006, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

I like your line here. Once I get an opponent heads-up, I often just call down with big hands like this; however, since he could easily have AT or even a worse T, I like this more aggressive line. You beat KK, QQ, JJ, and AT. The only hand we're really afraid of is TT, and I don't really understand a UTG limp with that.
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Old 03-05-2006, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

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I'd cap the turn. Even if you are behind you should have 6 outs for the win (2 aces and 4 fives)...

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if i was sitting at this table and saw you cap the turn with AA, i would open up your notes and type "thinks AA = instawin" or "AA = god"

are you capping and then bet/calling the river? capping and then check/calling the river?

i dont see how you can give him a range here that says we should cap.
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Old 03-05-2006, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

Because we are playing .5/1 with bad players. ATs and JJ-KK are very real possibilities here.

A read on villian would greatly influence how I played this... and not having extra outs on the river would also make me more likely to slowdown.
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: 0.5/1 AA C/R the turn?

How likely is it that we are ahead 55% of the time after the 3bet when I C/R the turn? Most players will slow down after getting checkraised on the turn, even with TPTK or an overpair. That's why I called down, expecting to loose. I even thought of folding... but since the pot had a nice size and he could indeed have JJ/QQ/KK/AT i coulnd't fold. Problem is that JJ/QQ/KK are weird given the preflop action
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