NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

kindling · #1 10-29-2007, 04:01 PM

Villain is 15/13/8 over 400 hands. We've been tangling a little, and he's done this "punish the limpers" raise before.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($38.35)
SB ($200.50)
BB ($54.40)
UTG ($73.45)
UTG+1 ($149.10)
MP1 ($134.95)
MP2 ($135.50)
Hero ($140.60)
CO ($41.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, MP2 raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 4 folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($15.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets $11, Hero raises to $30, MP2 raises to $55, Hero ???

CalledDownLight · #2 10-29-2007, 04:03 PM

3bet preflop. WTF are you doing on the flop? Either call or raise and then get it in. Raising and then folding is not good at all.

SABR42 · #3 10-29-2007, 04:06 PM

Don't raise the flop planning to fold. Turning QQ into a bluff is not good...

Just call the flop. As played, fold because you're behind, but it was a bad raise.

RyanCMU · #4 10-29-2007, 04:18 PM

Please 3bet preflop.

kindling · #5 10-29-2007, 04:19 PM

So what's the right way to ask what to do next? I made the last piece to bold so it wouldn't indicate what I actually chose to do. Everyone's already assuming fold.

CalledDownLight · #6 10-29-2007, 04:20 PM

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So what's the right way to ask what to do next? I made the last piece to bold so it wouldn't indicate what I actually chose to do. Everyone's already assuming fold.

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yea, you fold now, but you really [censored] this up in several places before this decision.

kindling · #7 10-29-2007, 04:21 PM

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Please 3bet preflop.

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So I should never float his PF raise in position?

da_fume · #8 10-29-2007, 05:04 PM

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Please 3bet preflop.

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So I should never float his PF raise in position?

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Why would you want to do that with QQ in the HJ with two limpers already in the pot? Nobody said never do that, but this doesn't seem like the spot. Also, it doesn't take a top tier hand to "float" his pf raise. So, it's not like you'll be waiting for hours for the opportunity to present itself again.

mce86 · #9 10-29-2007, 05:08 PM

I would probably mix it up with him. Im definitely calling his flop reraise, and I mifht even push the turn. He has a ton of hands here!

Kos13 · #10 10-29-2007, 05:08 PM

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3bet preflop. WTF are you doing on the flop? Either call or raise and then get it in. Raising and then folding is not good at all.

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